Felt I really wanted this heard, too. I really like the TD-8817.
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On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 17:17 +1100, Mike Everest wrote:
> Seeking recommendations for a good dsl modem that supports all of the
> typical dsl variants that also supports a decent pppoe passthrough bridge
> mode. No wireless, no multiple ethernet etc - just adsl port and 1 ethernet
> port is ideal :-D
Bang for buck, you can't go past the TP-Link TD-88xx models. I've used
the 8816 and 8817 units. Someone here recommended the 8840 though I
haven't used that one.
One ethernet port, support for ADSL everything, and they retain an
accessible IP address even when in bridge mode which is very useful.
They run relatively cool compared to a lot of other TP-Link stuff, but
you do need to give them some space (which you should do for any
electronics, really).
They come configured in bridge mode by default, which is handy if you
don't want to configure anything (though I usually do - the access IP
address and stuff, for example).
And they have a USB port. Just connect your laptop via USB and your
laptop magically grows a new Ethernet port through which you can control
the TP-Link unit - while it is in bridge mode, and without interrupting
whatever else it is doing.
And all for $25 or so.
I really have to scratch to find a bad word to say about these. They do
sometimes take a while to retrain.
> I recently bought a couple of draytek vigor 120, and hope I don't upset
> anyone by describing it as a piece of crap.
My experience is that if you get a good one, it's very very good, but
all too often you get a bad one and then it's very, very bad. I wouldn't
buy another, though we have one in place that hasn't missed a single
beat now for over two years.
Regards, K.
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And this. But this is the last resend, promise.
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On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 18:38 +1100, Kilburn Abrahams wrote:
> We had done a further bit of DSL testing with different ISP providers and
> manufacturers. In the end we ended up using Billion 7800 series, in our
> case 7800NXL.
> [...]
> We use them on 150+ sites. We have started to pull out onsite PoE switches
> and replace with Microtik then use the billion in pppoe passthrough bridge
> mode. So far as good.
OK - but you paid for a device with wireless, FOUR gigabit ethernet
ports, and a heap of software features - almost all of which you will
now throw away by putting the device into bridge mode and delivering a
slow outside link into just one other device. They almost certainly pull
more power and they are considerably physically larger. For Mike's
application, these units are just overkill, and they cost *at least*
four times as much as the TP-Link 8817.
Not dissing Billion here - I'm sure the units are great - but I think
they are out of place for Mike's application.
Do they have a unit with the 7800NXL's relibility, its ADSL interface,
1x 10/100 instead of 4x GE, no wireless and minimal software? That would
be the ideal unit - and it would cost $25 instead of $100.
> I don't like to loud mouth other manufactures, but tplink, dlink and others
> business models do not allow enough time for bug hunting or they continue
> to add features (draytek) and make the firmware unstable.
What on Earth makes you think Billion doesn't do exactly the same?!?
This is a $100 unit - every corner that can be cut has been cut. If it's
good, it's in spite of everything :-) The same is true of the TP-Link
products too, of course. The TD-W89xx range is rubbish - runs hot as
hell, reboots for no reason, forgets its config... sound familiar?
> Billion also makes a chaep 7700 but I would not touch it.
Indeed. And it STILL costs twice as much as the TP-Link, which has
proven itself pretty reliable.
When it comes to super-low-end hardware like this, testing and price are
king. Every manufacturer has some models that are lovable and some
models we learn to hate. If you find a unit that works well in the right
price range, you run with it - and watch like a hawk for undocumented
component changes, decrease in build quality, shorter deployed life etc
etc, and you test test test. That's why forums like this are so good -
you can profit from other people's experience, and only test the stuff
that is already known not to be crap.
Regards, K.
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