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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 45, Issue 6
by Matt Hall 23 Nov '17

23 Nov '17

Thanks for the good advice here everyone. Something else so add. I also want to setup a HAP and plugin a USB 4G modem but for a different purpose, to use it in areas where no ADSL/Cable is available. The 320U does not support the 700MHz band which is crucial for me and something you should know about too in case you’re not aware…. With a decent antenna on the roof, 700MHz can reach up to 70km from a cell tower so it’s perfect for rural areas. I’ve set this up with a Dovado router and a Netgear Aircard II previously but want to use MK gear. Another consideration is indoor penetration. 700Mz is much better at getting thought walls much like 3G at 850Mz. See here for more: https://www.telcoantennas.com.au/site/telstra-4g-explained <https://www.telcoantennas.com.au/site/telstra-4g-explained> Does anyone know of a USB 4G 700MHz Mikrotik compatible modem? MAC, PC, Smartphone & Multimedia Consulting, Training, Support & Fix-it screamSaver When You Just Want IT to Work" mobile 0412 067 226 email matt(a)screamsaver.net <mailto:matt@screamsaver.net> web www.screamsaver.net <http://www.screamsaver.net/> On 23 Nov 2017, at 18:34, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Ben Jackson - ELOGIK) 2. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Paul Julian) 3. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Jeremy Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:44:32 +1100 From: Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Message-ID: <CACv=4uqwcspOtPd=Zr-gKztswU2SX=nfTJJCXimn_6Kr86tkJw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Paul - where do you get your 320U's from? Ebay? *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > No problem, good luck. > > Regards > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 5:38 PM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll be > able to tailor a solution > > Thanks again for everyone's input. > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP >> devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is >> inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. >> Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik >> on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. >> >> Some caveats: >> - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with >> the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. >> - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should >> work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid >> and need to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet >> APN >> >> Apart from that it's pretty easy. >> >> We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik >> which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle >> which brings it back up most of the time. >> >> It's really not hard, and it works well. >> >> If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the >> $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any >> real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something >> to use to get back in. >> >> Regards >> Paul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of >> Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >> Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM >> To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question >> >> Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of >> factors at play here: >> >> 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of >> "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP >> assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of >> 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". >> 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought >> from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware >> which further locks down the device to stop certain features being >> exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change >> things such as the APN settings. >> 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the >> Huawei >> E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently >> be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be >> switched off (see here: >> http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- >> lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) >> this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to >> the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT > situation. >> 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you >> manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is >> not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to > square 1. >> >> For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: >> >> 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in >> "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan >> from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with >> all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) >> 2) Buying an LTE router such as: >> >> Dovado Tiny >> MikroTik SXT LTE >> Netgear (I know!) LB1111 >> TP-Link MR6400 >> >> and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've >> done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will >> present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an >> RJ45 / ethernet connection. >> >> Ben >> >> *BEN JACKSON* >> Director >> >> *M *0404 924745 >> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < >> jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP >>> session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into >>> serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra >> modules. >>> >>> If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the >>> dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and >>> set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like >>> bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. >>> >>> I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a >>> static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the >>> VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. >>> >>> On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jason, >>>> >>>> OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle >>>> or >>> card >>>> that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an >>> internal >>>> DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an >>>> IP address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP > directly. >>>> This >>> is >>>> so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the >>>> equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access >>>> resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by >>>> configuring the main firewall / >>> router >>>> accordingly. >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> *BEN JACKSON* >>>> Director >>>> >>>> *M *0404 924745 >>>> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >>>> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >>>> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) >>>> < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your >>>>> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet >>>>> on your LAN >>> and >>>>> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G >>> widget. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP >>>>> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the >>>>> device and assist >>> with >>>>> any issues. >>>>> >>>>> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >>>>> <ben(a)elogik.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that >>>>>> provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be >>>>>> forwarded through as >>>>> well >>>>>> as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support >>>>>> the >>> SIM >>>>> / >>>>>> service? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business >> plans? >>>>>> >>>>>> If it can be a prepaid plan even better. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 >>> security >>>>>> appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is >>>>>> giving >>> me a >>>>>> headache. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be >>>>>> most appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Jackson >>>>>> eLogik >>>>>> >>>>>> (Sent from my mobile device) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Public mailing list >>>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik >>>>> rotik.com.au >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Public mailing list >>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. >>> mikrotik.com.au >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >>> au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:48:19 +1100 From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Message-ID: <f278f2ea-be1f-4edb-b9c2-8a63078f68ad(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yep, should be able to get them for around $40-$50 Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 5:45 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Paul - where do you get your 320U's from? Ebay? *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > No problem, good luck. > > Regards > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 5:38 PM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll > be able to tailor a solution > > Thanks again for everyone's input. > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian > <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP >> devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is >> inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. >> Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the >> Mikrotik on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. >> >> Some caveats: >> - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with >> the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. >> - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should >> work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need >> postpaid and need to request that the SIM be setup with the >> telstra.extranet APN >> >> Apart from that it's pretty easy. >> >> We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the >> Mikrotik which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB >> power cycle which brings it back up most of the time. >> >> It's really not hard, and it works well. >> >> If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the >> $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any >> real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something >> to use to get back in. >> >> Regards >> Paul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf >> Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >> Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM >> To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question >> >> Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of >> factors at play here: >> >> 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of >> "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP >> assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of >> 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". >> 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought >> from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific >> firmware which further locks down the device to stop certain >> features being exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it >> tricky to change things such as the APN settings. >> 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the >> Huawei >> E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently >> be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be >> switched off (see here: >> http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- >> lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) >> this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly >> to the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double >> NAT > situation. >> 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you >> manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself >> is not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back >> to > square 1. >> >> For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: >> >> 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in >> "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan >> from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP >> (with all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) >> 2) Buying an LTE router such as: >> >> Dovado Tiny >> MikroTik SXT LTE >> Netgear (I know!) LB1111 >> TP-Link MR6400 >> >> and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've >> done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will >> present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an >> RJ45 / ethernet connection. >> >> Ben >> >> *BEN JACKSON* >> Director >> >> *M *0404 924745 >> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < >> jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP >>> session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into >>> serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the >>> Sierra >> modules. >>> >>> If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the >>> dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings >>> and set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like >>> bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. >>> >>> I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a >>> static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on >>> the VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. >>> >>> On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >>> <ben(a)elogik.net> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jason, >>>> >>>> OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a >>>> dongle or >>> card >>>> that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run >>>> an >>> internal >>>> DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with >>>> an IP address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP > directly. >>>> This >>> is >>>> so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the >>>> equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access >>>> resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by >>>> configuring the main firewall / >>> router >>>> accordingly. >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> *BEN JACKSON* >>>> Director >>>> >>>> *M *0404 924745 >>>> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >>>> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >>>> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running >>>> Tech) < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in >>>>> your office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private >>>>> subnet on your LAN >>> and >>>>> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your >>>>> 4G >>> widget. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP >>>>> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into >>>>> the device and assist >>> with >>>>> any issues. >>>>> >>>>> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >>>>> <ben(a)elogik.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that >>>>>> provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be >>>>>> forwarded through as >>>>> well >>>>>> as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will >>>>>> support the >>> SIM >>>>> / >>>>>> service? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or even a provider that provides this on one of their >>>>>> business >> plans? >>>>>> >>>>>> If it can be a prepaid plan even better. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki >>>>>> mx64 >>> security >>>>>> appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is >>>>>> giving >>> me a >>>>>> headache. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be >>>>>> most appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Jackson >>>>>> eLogik >>>>>> >>>>>> (Sent from my mobile device) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Public mailing list >>>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik >>>>> rotik.com.au >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Public mailing list >>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. >>> mikrotik.com.au >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >>> au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:34:00 +0800 From: Jeremy Hall <jeremy(a)jeremyhall.com.au> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Message-ID: <CAC2o=79EoV30+kd+QotGW_gd082Pr0MytqZe=WwA7btNcUi=gA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have had pretty good luck using a mikrotik router with a miniPCIe interface (eg. RB911) and a 3G/4G card such as the ones Sierra Wireless make. There is a list of compatible cards in the mikrotik wiki somewhere. It would be a neat solution, no messy USB dongles flapping around. Duxtel have all the kit of course. I also highly recommend using m2mone. They can set you up with whatever you need and it's painless and very cost effective. On 23 Nov. 2017 2:42 pm, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Paul Julian) 2. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Ben Jackson - ELOGIK) 3. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Paul Julian) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 13:53:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Hi Ben, We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. Some caveats: - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid and need to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet APN Apart from that it's pretty easy. We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle which brings it back up most of the time. It's really not hard, and it works well. If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something to use to get back in. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of factors at play here: 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware which further locks down the device to stop certain features being exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change things such as the APN settings. 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the Huawei E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be switched off (see here: http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g-lte- stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) 2) Buying an LTE router such as: Dovado Tiny MikroTik SXT LTE Netgear (I know!) LB1111 TP-Link MR6400 and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an RJ45 / ethernet connection. Ben *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP > session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into > serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra modules. > > If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the > dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and > set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like > bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. > > I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a > static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the > VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. > > On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> wrote: > >> Hi Jason, >> >> OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle >> or > card >> that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an > internal >> DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an IP >> address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. >> This > is >> so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the >> equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access >> resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by >> configuring the main firewall / > router >> accordingly. >> >> Ben >> >> *BEN JACKSON* >> Director >> >> *M *0404 924745 >> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < >> jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >> >>> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your >>> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet >>> on your LAN > and >>> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G > widget. >>> >>> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP >>> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the >>> device and assist > with >>> any issues. >>> >>> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that >>>> provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be >>>> forwarded through as >>> well >>>> as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support >>>> the > SIM >>> / >>>> service? >>>> >>>> Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business plans? >>>> >>>> If it can be a prepaid plan even better. >>>> >>>> I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 > security >>>> appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is >>>> giving > me a >>>> headache. >>>> >>>> Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be >>>> most appreciated. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Ben Jackson >>>> eLogik >>>> >>>> (Sent from my mobile device) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Public mailing list >>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik >>> rotik.com.au >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. > mikrotik.com.au >>> >> >> > > > -- > <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:38:16 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll be able to tailor a solution Thanks again for everyone's input. *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP > devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is inserted > into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. > Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik on > the LTE interface and you get a public IP. > > Some caveats: > - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with the > Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. > - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should work, > however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid and need > to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet APN > > Apart from that it's pretty easy. > > We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik > which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle which > brings it back up most of the time. > > It's really not hard, and it works well. > > If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the $19 > dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any real > changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something to use to > get back in. > > Regards > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM > To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of factors at > play here: > > 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of "router > on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP assigned private IP > on the LAN side in the normal ranges of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In > Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". > 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought from, > these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware which > further locks down the device to stop certain features being exposed to > the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change things such as > the APN settings. > 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the Huawei > E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently be > re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be switched off > (see here: > http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- > lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) > this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to the > device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. > 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you manage > to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is not a true > public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. > > For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: > > 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in "stick > mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan from either > M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with all the public > health and DDOS warnings this entails!) > 2) Buying an LTE router such as: > > Dovado Tiny > MikroTik SXT LTE > Netgear (I know!) LB1111 > TP-Link MR6400 > > and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've done, > these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will present the > LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an RJ45 / ethernet > connection. > > Ben > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > >> Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP >> session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into >> serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra > modules. >> >> If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the >> dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and >> set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like >> bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. >> >> I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a >> static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the >> VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. >> >> On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > wrote: >> >>> Hi Jason, >>> >>> OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle >>> or >> card >>> that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an >> internal >>> DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an IP >>> address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. >>> This >> is >>> so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the >>> equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access >>> resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by >>> configuring the main firewall / >> router >>> accordingly. >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> *BEN JACKSON* >>> Director >>> >>> *M *0404 924745 >>> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >>> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >>> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < >>> jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your >>>> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet >>>> on your LAN >> and >>>> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G >> widget. >>>> >>>> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP >>>> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the >>>> device and assist >> with >>>> any issues. >>>> >>>> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that >>>>> provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be >>>>> forwarded through as >>>> well >>>>> as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support >>>>> the >> SIM >>>> / >>>>> service? >>>>> >>>>> Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business > plans? >>>>> >>>>> If it can be a prepaid plan even better. >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 >> security >>>>> appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is >>>>> giving >> me a >>>>> headache. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be >>>>> most appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ben Jackson >>>>> eLogik >>>>> >>>>> (Sent from my mobile device) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Public mailing list >>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik >>>> rotik.com.au >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Public mailing list >>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. >> mikrotik.com.au >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:42:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question No problem, good luck. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 5:38 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll be able to tailor a solution Thanks again for everyone's input. *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP > devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is > inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. > Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik > on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. > > Some caveats: > - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with > the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. > - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should > work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid > and need to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet > APN > > Apart from that it's pretty easy. > > We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik > which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle > which brings it back up most of the time. > > It's really not hard, and it works well. > > If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the > $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any > real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something > to use to get back in. > > Regards > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM > To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of > factors at play here: > > 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of > "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP > assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of > 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". > 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought > from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware > which further locks down the device to stop certain features being > exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change > things such as the APN settings. > 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the > Huawei > E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently > be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be > switched off (see here: > http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- > lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) > this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to > the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. > 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you > manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is > not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. > > For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: > > 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in > "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan > from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with > all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) > 2) Buying an LTE router such as: > > Dovado Tiny > MikroTik SXT LTE > Netgear (I know!) LB1111 > TP-Link MR6400 > > and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've > done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will > present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an > RJ45 / ethernet connection. > > Ben > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > >> Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP >> session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into >> serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra > modules. >> >> If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the >> dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and >> set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like >> bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. >> >> I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a >> static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the >> VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. >> >> On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > wrote: >> >>> Hi Jason, >>> >>> OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle >>> or >> card >>> that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an >> internal >>> DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an >>> IP address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. >>> This >> is >>> so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the >>> equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access >>> resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by >>> configuring the main firewall / >> router >>> accordingly. >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> *BEN JACKSON* >>> Director >>> >>> *M *0404 924745 >>> *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au >>> *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> >>> <http://www.elogik.com.au> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) >>> < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your >>>> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet >>>> on your LAN >> and >>>> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G >> widget. >>>> >>>> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP >>>> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the >>>> device and assist >> with >>>> any issues. >>>> >>>> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK >>>> <ben(a)elogik.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that >>>>> provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be >>>>> forwarded through as >>>> well >>>>> as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support >>>>> the >> SIM >>>> / >>>>> service? >>>>> >>>>> Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business > plans? >>>>> >>>>> If it can be a prepaid plan even better. >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 >> security >>>>> appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is >>>>> giving >> me a >>>>> headache. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be >>>>> most appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ben Jackson >>>>> eLogik >>>>> >>>>> (Sent from my mobile device) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Public mailing list >>>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik >>>> rotik.com.au >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Public mailing list >>>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. >> mikrotik.com.au >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. >> au >> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 45, Issue 6 *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question
by Jeremy Hall 23 Nov '17

23 Nov '17

I have had pretty good luck using a mikrotik router with a miniPCIe interface (eg. RB911) and a 3G/4G card such as the ones Sierra Wireless make. There is a list of compatible cards in the mikrotik wiki somewhere. It would be a neat solution, no messy USB dongles flapping around. Duxtel have all the kit of course. I also highly recommend using m2mone. They can set you up with whatever you need and it's painless and very cost effective. On 23 Nov. 2017 2:42 pm, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Paul Julian) 2. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Ben Jackson - ELOGIK) 3. Re: 4G WAN failover question (Paul Julian) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 13:53:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Hi Ben, We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. Some caveats: - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid and need to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet APN Apart from that it's pretty easy. We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle which brings it back up most of the time. It's really not hard, and it works well. If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something to use to get back in. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of factors at play here: 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware which further locks down the device to stop certain features being exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change things such as the APN settings. 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the Huawei E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be switched off (see here: http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g-lte- stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) 2) Buying an LTE router such as: Dovado Tiny MikroTik SXT LTE Netgear (I know!) LB1111 TP-Link MR6400 and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an RJ45 / ethernet connection. Ben *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP > session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into > serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra modules. > > If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the > dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and > set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like > bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. > > I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a > static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the > VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. > > On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> wrote: > > > Hi Jason, > > > > OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle > > or > card > > that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an > internal > > DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an IP > > address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. > > This > is > > so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the > > equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access > > resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by > > configuring the main firewall / > router > > accordingly. > > > > Ben > > > > *BEN JACKSON* > > Director > > > > *M *0404 924745 > > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > > > >> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your > >> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet > >> on your LAN > and > >> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G > widget. > >> > >> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP > >> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the > >> device and assist > with > >> any issues. > >> > >> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that > >> > provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be > >> > forwarded through as > >> well > >> > as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support > >> > the > SIM > >> / > >> > service? > >> > > >> > Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business plans? > >> > > >> > If it can be a prepaid plan even better. > >> > > >> > I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 > security > >> > appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is > >> > giving > me a > >> > headache. > >> > > >> > Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be > >> > most appreciated. > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > > >> > Ben Jackson > >> > eLogik > >> > > >> > (Sent from my mobile device) > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Public mailing list > >> > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > >> > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik > >> rotik.com.au > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Public mailing list > >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. > mikrotik.com.au > >> > > > > > > > -- > <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:38:16 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll be able to tailor a solution Thanks again for everyone's input. *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP > devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is inserted > into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. > Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik on > the LTE interface and you get a public IP. > > Some caveats: > - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with the > Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. > - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should work, > however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid and need > to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet APN > > Apart from that it's pretty easy. > > We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik > which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle which > brings it back up most of the time. > > It's really not hard, and it works well. > > If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the $19 > dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any real > changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something to use to > get back in. > > Regards > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM > To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of factors at > play here: > > 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of "router > on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP assigned private IP > on the LAN side in the normal ranges of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In > Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". > 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought from, > these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware which > further locks down the device to stop certain features being exposed to > the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change things such as > the APN settings. > 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the Huawei > E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently be > re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be switched off > (see here: > http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- > lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) > this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to the > device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. > 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you manage > to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is not a true > public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. > > For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: > > 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in "stick > mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan from either > M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with all the public > health and DDOS warnings this entails!) > 2) Buying an LTE router such as: > > Dovado Tiny > MikroTik SXT LTE > Netgear (I know!) LB1111 > TP-Link MR6400 > > and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've done, > these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will present the > LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an RJ45 / ethernet > connection. > > Ben > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > > > Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP > > session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into > > serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra > modules. > > > > If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the > > dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and > > set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like > > bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. > > > > I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a > > static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the > > VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. > > > > On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > > > OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle > > > or > > card > > > that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an > > internal > > > DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an IP > > > address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. > > > This > > is > > > so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the > > > equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access > > > resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by > > > configuring the main firewall / > > router > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > *BEN JACKSON* > > > Director > > > > > > *M *0404 924745 > > > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > > > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > > > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > > > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > > > > > >> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your > > >> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet > > >> on your LAN > > and > > >> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G > > widget. > > >> > > >> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP > > >> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the > > >> device and assist > > with > > >> any issues. > > >> > > >> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that > > >> > provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be > > >> > forwarded through as > > >> well > > >> > as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support > > >> > the > > SIM > > >> / > > >> > service? > > >> > > > >> > Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business > plans? > > >> > > > >> > If it can be a prepaid plan even better. > > >> > > > >> > I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 > > security > > >> > appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is > > >> > giving > > me a > > >> > headache. > > >> > > > >> > Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be > > >> > most appreciated. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards, > > >> > > > >> > Ben Jackson > > >> > eLogik > > >> > > > >> > (Sent from my mobile device) > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Public mailing list > > >> > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > >> > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik > > >> rotik.com.au > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Public mailing list > > >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. > > mikrotik.com.au > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:42:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question No problem, good luck. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - ELOGIK Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 5:38 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question Great info Paul - thanks for this. I think with all this in mind I'll be able to tailor a solution Thanks again for everyone's input. *BEN JACKSON* Director *M *0404 924745 *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Paul Julian <paul(a)oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote: > Hi Ben, > > We use the Telstra Sierra Wireless 320U modems in our Mikrotik hAP > devices, the Mikrotik creates an LTE interface once the modem is > inserted into the USB port, you set the APN within the LTE interface. > Once that's connected you then configure a DHCP client on the Mikrotik > on the LTE interface and you get a public IP. > > Some caveats: > - You do need to change the mode of the modem, this can be done with > the Netgear utility easily, they are a netgear unit basically. > - You need to use a 4G SIM from Telstra, prepaid or postpaid should > work, however if you want the APN with the public IP you need postpaid > and need to request that the SIM be setup with the telstra.extranet > APN > > Apart from that it's pretty easy. > > We occasionally have the modem drop, we have a script on the Mikrotik > which checks connectivity and if it drops it does a USB power cycle > which brings it back up most of the time. > > It's really not hard, and it works well. > > If you want to go with Optus but without a public IP you can get the > $19 dongle from Office Works, it works in the Mikrotik without any > real changes, but no public IP, fine if you can VPN out to something > to use to get back in. > > Regards > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:10 AM > To: Jason Hecker; MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 4G WAN failover question > > Thanks for the pointers everyone. There seem to be a number of > factors at play here: > > 1) Most of the LTE USB modems you can purchase have some kind of > "router on a stick" built in which provides a firewalled, DHCP > assigned private IP on the LAN side in the normal ranges of > 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. In Huawei's case this is known as "HiLink mode". > 2) In addition to this, depending on which provider they are bought > from, these modems / dongles are flashed with an ISP-specific firmware > which further locks down the device to stop certain features being > exposed to the device's web-interface. This makes it tricky to change > things such as the APN settings. > 3) The above types of device (i've been mainly concerned with the > Huawei > E3372 since that's the one my router has support for) can apparently > be re-flashed with custom firmware which allows HiLink mode to be > switched off (see here: > http://www.0xf8.org/2017/01/flashing-a-huawei-e3372h-4g- > lte-stick-from-hilink-to-stick-mode/) > this will apparently allow the "public" IP to be assigned directly to > the device connected to the USB port and avoids the pesky double NAT situation. > 4) The reason I say "public" in quotes above is because even if you > manage to pass this address through, quite often the address itself is > not a true public IP as it is behind carrier NAT and you are back to square 1. > > For those interested, here are the options I'm exploring: > > 1) Getting a sierra 320U unlocked from ebay which can be used in > "stick mode" without NAT or DHCP enabled and purchasing a SIM plan > from either M2MOne or URL networks which has a "true" public IP (with > all the public health and DDOS warnings this entails!) > 2) Buying an LTE router such as: > > Dovado Tiny > MikroTik SXT LTE > Netgear (I know!) LB1111 > TP-Link MR6400 > > and then using the same sim card as above. From the research I've > done, these devices have a "passthrough" or bridge mode which will > present the LTE public IP directly to my main router, albeit via an > RJ45 / ethernet connection. > > Ben > > *BEN JACKSON* > Director > > *M *0404 924745 > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < > jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > > > Oh I see, OK, sounds like you need something that will do a PPP > > session which some 4G cards will let you do if you put them into > > serial mode like the Telit LE910 (which I have tried) or the Sierra > modules. > > > > If you end up with a static or dynamic public IP you can cname the > > dynamic DNS Mikrotik provides in the router's ip->cloud settings and > > set the timeout to 60, so you could get at it like > > bighonchoclient1.elogik.net for example. > > > > I kicked the idea around but never tried buying a cheap VPS with a > > static IP and having the 4G based Mikrotik VPN into it, then on the > > VPS port forward any ports to services behind the 4G device. > > > > On 22 November 2017 at 15:59, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > > > OK, I didn't phrase my question very well, what I need is a dongle > > > or > > card > > > that doesn't provide an extra layer of NAT (as many do) and run an > > internal > > > DHCP sever so that the routers cellular interface ends up with an > > > IP address like 192.168.x.x but instead passes the public IP directly. > > > This > > is > > > so I don't end up with a double NAT situation (kind of the > > > equivalent of bridge mode for a DSL modem) and I can access > > > resources (like security systems etc) behind the public IP by > > > configuring the main firewall / > > router > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > *BEN JACKSON* > > > Director > > > > > > *M *0404 924745 > > > *E* ben(a)elogik.com.au > > > *W* elogik.com.au <http://www.elogik.com.au/> > > > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) > > > < jason(a)upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote: > > > > > >> What if you had those routers phone home to a VPN server in your > > >> office over 4G? They'd always be in easy reach on private subnet > > >> on your LAN > > and > > >> you wouldn't need to worry about public or static IPs for your 4G > > widget. > > >> > > >> I noticed Duxtel configured devices I have bought have a PPTP > > >> client set up so if you activate it then Duxtel can peer into the > > >> device and assist > > with > > >> any issues. > > >> > > >> On 22 November 2017 at 13:46, Ben Jackson - ELOGIK > > >> <ben(a)elogik.net> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that > > >> > provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be > > >> > forwarded through as > > >> well > > >> > as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support > > >> > the > > SIM > > >> / > > >> > service? > > >> > > > >> > Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business > plans? > > >> > > > >> > If it can be a prepaid plan even better. > > >> > > > >> > I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 > > security > > >> > appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is > > >> > giving > > me a > > >> > headache. > > >> > > > >> > Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be > > >> > most appreciated. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards, > > >> > > > >> > Ben Jackson > > >> > eLogik > > >> > > > >> > (Sent from my mobile device) > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Public mailing list > > >> > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > >> > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik > > >> rotik.com.au > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Public mailing list > > >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. > > mikrotik.com.au > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au> > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au

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4G WAN failover question
by Ben Jackson - ELOGIK 23 Nov '17

23 Nov '17

Does anyone have any advice on a) a decent 4g service that provides a publicly accessible IP address that ports can be forwarded through as well as how to get hold of an unlocked USB dongle which will support the SIM / service? Or even a provider that provides this on one of their business plans? If it can be a prepaid plan even better. I'm looking to use said device as 4G failover on a meraki mx64 security appliance and calling the usual suspects (Optus, telstra) is giving me a headache. Any advice on what others have done in this scenario would be most appreciated. Best regards, Ben Jackson eLogik (Sent from my mobile device)

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CCR1009-7G - Port Mirroring
by Denis Hancock 15 Nov '17

15 Nov '17

Hi All Has anyone been able to mirror ports ? /interface switch set mirror-source=ether3 mirror-target=ether4 # failure: port mirroring not supported :( -- *Denis Hancock* Chief Technical Officer / Director Helpdesk 1300 139 593 <1300139593> Mobile 0407 687 621 <0407687621> Member AISA OWASP VIC Unit 15, 5 Enterprise Drive, Rowville 3178 <https://goo.gl/maps/HGmhhNncEF12> QLD (Arcare) 14/8 Metroplex Ave, Murrarie 4172 <https://goo.gl/maps/dfeKUES6NbD2> <https://samurai.com.au> <https://www.facebook.com/samuraiconsulting.melbourne> <https://au.linkedin.com/in/denishancock> This email is intended only for the addresses(s) and is subject to copyright. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately, do not use or disclose the contents and delete the message and any attachments to this email. We cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses.

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XDSL WOOHOO
by Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=488 https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=489 Wow Mike did *you* get the approvals done or the manufacturer? I don't care JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! -- <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au>

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TX Power Levels gone
by Paul Julian 24 Oct '17

24 Oct '17

Has anybody else noticed lately that the Current Tx Power tab is blank on Mikrotik Wireless gear now ? I have seen this issue now on Dynadish, SXT, and QRT radios, not sure if it's OS version related or not but they are all on latest bugfix version 6.39.3 Regards Paul

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Radar detection Chaos Since 6.40.4
by Mike Everest 22 Oct '17

22 Oct '17

Further update on this issue, I've had a bit of correspondence with them, but they are 'fighting' it. Latest comment from them is that "ETSI standard mentions when you use DFS and those ranges you need to use the Radar-detect. Radar detect is happening only for 1 minute." The line they are taking is that since our LIPD class license specification says that DFS must be enabled for the sub 5785 channels, then radar detect must also be enabled. I've been trying to pore through all the relevant ACMA documentation so that I can find some definitive paragraph that clarifies the situation, but so far have drawn a blank. I need someone who has some specific familiarity with the relevant rules and standard that can find something that will convince them to turn it off - any takers? :-} Cheers, Mike.

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Radar detection Chaos Since 6.40.4
by Matt Perkins 19 Oct '17

19 Oct '17

Hi All, Since the upgrade to 6.40.4 which has almost become a pseudo requirement since WPA2 announcement we have had a large number of sites detecting radar with false positives. Other then enabling super channel or perhaps switching to manual tx power and manually putting in the Australian card rates. I see no way to disable it. Does anyone have a better solution that wont get the ghost busters around to shut down your ap. Matt. -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. Office 1300 133 299 matt(a)spectrum.com.au Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO */

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krack
by Ben Williams 18 Oct '17

18 Oct '17

Hey, What should we do to mitigate against the krack vulnerability in our mikrotik gear? I checked the changelogs at https://mikrotik.com/download/changelogs/, but there's no mention of krack (assumedly because the last updates are from before krack was announced). I assume people are working on a firmware update? - Ben -- -- echo [q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb241167078674140849351213545168413280214786211741720960170477998338109578719788558437971008954751099682787776927198532026019640182283695835073769037269976965492880188752740629807625756643115316959456234027360849928332596130768194snlbxq|dc

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Can't connect through Winbox/Dude
by Russell Hurren 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

I have an intermittent problem where some routers stop allowing Winbox or Dude connections. At the moment I have a CCR1009 at a client site that's working perfectly and I can ssh into it, but I can't use Winbox or the Dude. If I reboot it, it'll come good (but I'll have to do that late at night). I've had some x86 routers do the same thing. I can't see anything obvious in the logs or active connections. The problem occurs with multiple different ROS versions. Does anyone have any suggestions for troubleshooting this? Thanks Russell

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