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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9
by kevin＠scottsip.com.au 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

Matt, I always considered having the right tools for the job is a necessary part of any ICT tool kit. I have Ethernet testers, ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+/VDSL/VDSL2/Fibre tester, Cable identifiers/tracers, Software tools to track, trace and monitor links and everything else Etc... The pocketethernet is one that I have considered in the past and thought about purchasing - it is really good kit, but I had decided to utilise Fluke for testing cabling by renting that kit. The Fluke kit is an expense that is out of reach and the technology changes regularly - so ROI is a problem. Keep the sparkies/cablers honest and verify what they are selling you is legitimate using the pocketethernet device is a great idea. Regards, Kevin Scott's IP connecting you anywhere web: http://www.scottsip.com.au email: kevin(a)scottsip.com.au mobile: 0419-650-550 work: (03) 9008-5696 fax: (03) 9008-5686 ABN: 91 614 656 594 hours: Monday to Friday 8:30am to 5:00pm - Saturdays by appointment only. Scott's IP Pty Ltd is now providing business grade Voice, Data products and NBN services - contact us for your connection. -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:00 PM To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9 Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:05:36 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 Message-ID: <FE3C9C5B-C72F-4CC9-9BB9-5912030861FC(a)screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Kev. I want a tester for troubleshooting when things aren?t going according to plan or if I want to find out what?s what in a copper wire bird?s nest. If I want cable laid I get someone else on the job with the right tools. Looks like the pockethernet will be just right for the job. Too late now anyway, I bought one. :) Matt > On 15 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 (kevin @ scotts ip) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:56:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: "kevin @ scotts ip" <kevin(a)scottsip.com.au> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 > Message-ID: > > <4C1D87DEDE77B0A7.e20a1597-63bd-4587-bf3c-be92504979f6(a)mail.outlook.co > m> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Matt You stated that you use electricians with certification testers.. > > > > > If they are certifying that the cable is tested for cat 6 / cat 6 E performance then I don't see why youd need a tester. > > > > > Or do you mean the sparkies are just performing a wire map test only, and the reason you need another device to ensure what they are doing. > > > On a side note if I do a job for a customer. > > > > > I would be using a fluke to test the performance of the cable, certify the cabling and connection points,? as an integral part of the scope of works. The fluke device I use for structured cabling for customers is the only way I can guarantee that the backbone of the network is capable and ready. It also offers peace of mind for the IT department,? but then again I'm not a sparky, I'm a Structured Cabler, Telco technical Officer of many many years. > > > > > Kev > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kevin > > > > > Scott`s IP Pty Ltd > > > www.scottsip.com.au > > > (03) 9008-5696 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:01 PM +1000, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Matt Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:17:55 +1000 > From: Matt Hall > To: Mikrotik Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I got my pockethernet yesterday. It only took a few days to ship from Germany. > Thanks for the tips everyone. > > Matt > >> On 8 Jul 2019, at 14:45, Matt Hall wrote: >> >> Thanks Everyone, >> >> So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: >> >> Send Public mailing list submissions to >> public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com >> .au >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 >> From: Steve Hille >> To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" , >> "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Public on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 >> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> >> Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com >> .au >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Lan Cable >> Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester >> Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester >> Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester >> Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 >> From: Matt Hall >> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? >> >> Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. >> >> I want it to be able to: >> >> 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. >> 2. survive POE voltage. >> 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. >> 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test >> a few data points at once >> >> >> My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. >> >> Options I?ve found so far: >> >> Ideal networks >> VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 >> >> Aegis has: >> Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 >> LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 >> LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 >> >> RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components >> $475 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 >> From: Damien Gardner Jnr >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a >> lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch >> of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch >> panels and wall sockets ;) >> >> These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. >> I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does >> basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure >> vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports >> with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured >> to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic >> from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, >> Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other >> vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! >> Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't >> need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the >> Pockthernet :) >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall wrote: >>> >>> Hello Folks, >>> >>> Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? >>> >>> Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up >>> basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification >>> testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. >>> >>> I want it to be able to: >>> >>> 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic >>> troubleshooting info on faulty cables. >>> 2. survive POE voltage. >>> 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. >>> 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can >>> test a few data points at once >>> >>> >>> My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. >>> >>> Options I?ve found so far: >>> >>> Ideal networks >>> VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 >>> >>> Aegis has: >>> Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 >>> LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 >>> LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 >>> >>> RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components >>> $475 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.co >>> m.au >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of >> thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 >> From: Mike O'Connor >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List , >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >>> On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: >>> Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked >>> a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a >>> bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between >>> patch panels and wall sockets ;) >>> >>> These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. >>> I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does >>> basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure >>> vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on >>> ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're >>> configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then >>> pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, >>> wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it >>> works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I >>> love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on >>> Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a >>> serious gander at the Pockthernet :) >>> >>> >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is >> the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >> >> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 >> From: Damien Gardner Jnr >> To: "Mike O'Connor" >> Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is >>> the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >>> >> Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... >> >> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >> >> >> Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button >> on mobile :) >> >> Cheers >> >> DG >> -- >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of >> thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 >> From: Andrew Gilbett >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! >> >>>> On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is >>>> the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >>>> >>> Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... >>> >>> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >>> >>> >>> Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button >>> on mobile :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> DG >>> -- >>> >>> Damien Gardner Jnr >>> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >>> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >>> -- >>> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of >>> thunder. >>> We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.co >>> m.au >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com >> .au >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> ************************************* >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com >> .au >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 >> ************************************* >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 > ************************************* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. > au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 > ************************************* ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9 *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8
by Matt Hall 15 Jul '19

15 Jul '19

Hi Kev. I want a tester for troubleshooting when things aren’t going according to plan or if I want to find out what’s what in a copper wire bird’s nest. If I want cable laid I get someone else on the job with the right tools. Looks like the pockethernet will be just right for the job. Too late now anyway, I bought one. :) Matt > On 15 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 (kevin @ scotts ip) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:56:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: "kevin @ scotts ip" <kevin(a)scottsip.com.au> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 > Message-ID: > <4C1D87DEDE77B0A7.e20a1597-63bd-4587-bf3c-be92504979f6(a)mail.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Matt You stated that you use electricians with certification testers.. > > > > > If they are certifying that the cable is tested for cat 6 / cat 6 E performance then I don't see why youd need a tester. > > > > > Or do you mean the sparkies are just performing a wire map test only, and the reason you need another device to ensure what they are doing. > > > On a side note if I do a job for a customer. > > > > > I would be using a fluke to test the performance of the cable, certify the cabling and connection points,? as an integral part of the scope of works. The fluke device I use for structured cabling for customers is the only way I can guarantee that the backbone of the network is capable and ready. It also offers peace of mind for the IT department,? but then again I'm not a sparky, I'm a Structured Cabler, Telco technical Officer of many many years. > > > > > Kev > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kevin > > > > > Scott`s IP Pty Ltd > > > www.scottsip.com.au > > > (03) 9008-5696 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:01 PM +1000, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Matt Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:17:55 +1000 > From: Matt Hall > To: Mikrotik Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I got my pockethernet yesterday. It only took a few days to ship from Germany. > Thanks for the tips everyone. > > Matt > >> On 8 Jul 2019, at 14:45, Matt Hall wrote: >> >> Thanks Everyone, >> >> So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: >> >> Send Public mailing list submissions to >> public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 >> From: Steve Hille >> To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" , >> "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Public on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 >> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> >> Send Public mailing list submissions to >> public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) >> 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) >> 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) >> 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) >> 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 >> From: Matt Hall >> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? >> >> Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. >> >> I want it to be able to: >> >> 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. >> 2. survive POE voltage. >> 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. >> 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once >> >> >> My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. >> >> Options I?ve found so far: >> >> Ideal networks >> VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 >> >> Aegis has: >> Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 >> LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 >> LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 >> >> RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 >> From: Damien Gardner Jnr >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot >> like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables >> at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall >> sockets ;) >> >> These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. >> I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically >> anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc >> so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans >> configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic >> into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC >> port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP >> identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does >> TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed >> on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a >> serious gander at the Pockthernet :) >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall wrote: >>> >>> Hello Folks, >>> >>> Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? >>> >>> Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK >>> lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers >>> wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. >>> >>> I want it to be able to: >>> >>> 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic >>> troubleshooting info on faulty cables. >>> 2. survive POE voltage. >>> 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. >>> 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a >>> few data points at once >>> >>> >>> My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. >>> >>> Options I?ve found so far: >>> >>> Ideal networks >>> VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 >>> >>> Aegis has: >>> Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 >>> LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 >>> LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 >>> >>> RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, >> We ran to the sounds of thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 >> From: Mike O'Connor >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List , >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >>> On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: >>> Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot >>> like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables >>> at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall >>> sockets ;) >>> >>> These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. >>> I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically >>> anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc >>> so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans >>> configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic >>> into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC >>> port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP >>> identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does >>> TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed >>> on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a >>> serious gander at the Pockthernet :) >>> >>> >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >> >> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 >> From: Damien Gardner Jnr >> To: "Mike O'Connor" >> Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >>> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >>> >> Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... >> >> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >> >> >> Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on >> mobile :) >> >> Cheers >> >> DG >> -- >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, >> We ran to the sounds of thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 >> From: Andrew Gilbett >> To: MikroTik Australia Public List >> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! >> >>>> On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >>>> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >>>> >>> Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... >>> >>> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >>> >>> >>> Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on >>> mobile :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> DG >>> -- >>> >>> Damien Gardner Jnr >>> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >>> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >>> -- >>> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, >>> We ran to the sounds of thunder. >>> We danced among the lightning bolts, >>> and tore the world asunder >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Public mailing list >>> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 >> ************************************* >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 >> ************************************* >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 > ************************************* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 > *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7
by kevin ＠ scotts ip 14 Jul '19

14 Jul '19

Matt You stated that you use electricians with certification testers.. If they are certifying that the cable is tested for cat 6 / cat 6 E performance then I don't see why youd need a tester. Or do you mean the sparkies are just performing a wire map test only, and the reason you need another device to ensure what they are doing. On a side note if I do a job for a customer. I would be using a fluke to test the performance of the cable, certify the cabling and connection points, as an integral part of the scope of works. The fluke device I use for structured cabling for customers is the only way I can guarantee that the backbone of the network is capable and ready. It also offers peace of mind for the IT department, but then again I'm not a sparky, I'm a Structured Cabler, Telco technical Officer of many many years. Kev Regards, Kevin Scott`s IP Pty Ltd www.scottsip.com.au (03) 9008-5696 On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:01 PM +1000, <public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:17:55 +1000 From: Matt Hall To: Mikrotik Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got my pockethernet yesterday. It only took a few days to ship from Germany. Thanks for the tips everyone. Matt > On 8 Jul 2019, at 14:45, Matt Hall wrote: > > Thanks Everyone, > > So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? > > Matt > > > > On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 > From: Steve Hille > To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" , > "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. > > > ________________________________ > From: Public on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) > 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) > 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 > From: Matt Hall > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall wrote: >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? >> >> Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK >> lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers >> wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. >> >> I want it to be able to: >> >> 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic >> troubleshooting info on faulty cables. >> 2. survive POE voltage. >> 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. >> 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a >> few data points at once >> >> >> My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. >> >> Options I?ve found so far: >> >> Ideal networks >> VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 >> >> Aegis has: >> Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 >> LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 >> LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 >> >> RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> > > > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 > From: Mike O'Connor > To: MikroTik Australia Public List , > Damien Gardner Jnr > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >> On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: >> Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot >> like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables >> at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall >> sockets ;) >> >> These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. >> I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically >> anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc >> so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans >> configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic >> into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC >> port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP >> identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does >> TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed >> on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a >> serious gander at the Pockthernet :) >> >> > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr > To: "Mike O'Connor" > Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >> >> >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >> > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 > From: Andrew Gilbett > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! > >> On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >>> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >>> >> Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... >> >> I can not see how to buy them from the website. >> >> >> Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on >> mobile :) >> >> Cheers >> >> DG >> -- >> >> Damien Gardner Jnr >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust >> rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ >> -- >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, >> We ran to the sounds of thunder. >> We danced among the lightning bolts, >> and tore the world asunder >> _______________________________________________ >> Public mailing list >> Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au >> http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 > ************************************* > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4
by Matt Hall 13 Jul '19

13 Jul '19

Thanks Everyone, So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? Matt On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 From: Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Message-ID: <CY4PR1001MB23915E4EBD4CD317180A0176F6F70(a)CY4PR1001MB2391.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. ________________________________ From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <B15AF7A3-44F5-4085-B419-E761DA861CF4(a)screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Folks, Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. I want it to be able to: 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. 2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. Options I?ve found so far: Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLXiv+X_mGEHhJ=s=fToVz66kVsnX7np3swYZ50Dg9JzAA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall sockets ;) These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the Pockthernet :) On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 From: Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <ad3ae94f-0105-aaba-2fb6-e6ae0c48ca4b(a)oeg.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. I can not see how to buy them from the website. Mike ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLW7NJ2Ga8jAYscJZ_iemR6=291XP6NO73ZT47-5NRMEmw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... I can not see how to buy them from the website. Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on mobile :) Cheers DG -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 From: Andrew Gilbett <andrew(a)gilbett.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CABF3X9tirVpNdWyt3FzsHT4praHh5s9sfACRaG1FNx_=XLH9dg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > >> >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >> > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 ************************************* ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 5
by Steve Hille 08 Jul '19

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I’ve dropped mine from a decent height more than once, used it in 50 Celsius heat for hours on end and no worries at all. The only thing I do wonder about is how long the battery will last. ________________________________ From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 19:46 To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 5 Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Ben Jackson - ELOGIK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 14:45:52 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> To: Mikrotik Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 Message-ID: <E3C53233-8C46-4CC3-9C62-0436A2F0DCB1(a)screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Everyone, So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? Matt On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 From: Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Message-ID: <CY4PR1001MB23915E4EBD4CD317180A0176F6F70(a)CY4PR1001MB2391.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. ________________________________ From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <B15AF7A3-44F5-4085-B419-E761DA861CF4(a)screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Folks, Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. I want it to be able to: 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. 2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. Options I?ve found so far: Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLXiv+X_mGEHhJ=s=fToVz66kVsnX7np3swYZ50Dg9JzAA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall sockets ;) These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the Pockthernet :) On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 From: Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <ad3ae94f-0105-aaba-2fb6-e6ae0c48ca4b(a)oeg.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. I can not see how to buy them from the website. Mike ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLW7NJ2Ga8jAYscJZ_iemR6=291XP6NO73ZT47-5NRMEmw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... I can not see how to buy them from the website. Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on mobile :) Cheers DG -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 From: Andrew Gilbett <andrew(a)gilbett.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CABF3X9tirVpNdWyt3FzsHT4praHh5s9sfACRaG1FNx_=XLH9dg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > >> >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. >> > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 ************************************* ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:45:22 +1000 From: Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 Message-ID: <CACv=4uoO8XqEHE0Qk_W6UjrF7Q5Orf5kJGuFk8W00o5LCyPR6A(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I use the Fluke Intellitone pro for basic pinout testing and cable locating. Very reliable, but not particularly cheap. There is a version that has multiple dongles for multiple outlets. My only need with it is you have to remember to turn it off otherwise you eat thru 9 volt batteries. On Mon., 8 Jul. 2019, 2:46 pm Matt Hall, <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > Thanks Everyone, > > So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal > Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People > have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? > > Matt > > > > On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 > From: Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> > To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, > "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > Message-ID: > < > CY4PR1001MB23915E4EBD4CD317180A0176F6F70(a)CY4PR1001MB2391.namprd10.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. > > > ________________________________ > From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) > 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) > 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 > From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: <B15AF7A3-44F5-4085-B419-E761DA861CF4(a)screamsaver.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CAPrfDLXiv+X_mGEHhJ=s=fToVz66kVsnX7np3swYZ50Dg9JzAA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > > > Hello Folks, > > > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic > MK > > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > > > I want it to be able to: > > > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > > 2. survive POE voltage. > > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > > few data points at once > > > > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > > > Options I?ve found so far: > > > > Ideal networks > > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > > > Aegis has: > > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 > From: Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, > Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: <ad3ae94f-0105-aaba-2fb6-e6ae0c48ca4b(a)oeg.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of > cables > > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > > sockets ;) > > > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does > basically > > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings > etc > > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > > > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> > Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CAPrfDLW7NJ2Ga8jAYscJZ_iemR6=291XP6NO73ZT47-5NRMEmw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > > > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 > From: Andrew Gilbett <andrew(a)gilbett.net> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CABF3X9tirVpNdWyt3FzsHT4praHh5s9sfACRaG1FNx_=XLH9dg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! > > On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > > >> > >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > >> > > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > > mobile :) > > > > Cheers > > > > DG > > -- > > > > Damien Gardner Jnr > > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > > -- > > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > > We danced among the lightning bolts, > > and tore the world asunder > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 5 *************************************

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4
by Michael Junek 08 Jul '19

08 Jul '19

I have the big brother of this one - fluke microscanner 2 - it has the 7 dongles and will tell you where the fault in the cable is and I'm which pair /pin. One thing it doesn't do is any network negotiation past layer 1, it'll tell you there's a switch and it's 10/100/1000 and poe, but nothing like CDP or DHCP detection. Horses for courses though, mine is targeted to cable jockeys, rather than network engineers. ________________________________ From: Ben Jackson - ELOGIK <ben(a)elogik.net> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2019 19:47 To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 I use the Fluke Intellitone pro for basic pinout testing and cable locating. Very reliable, but not particularly cheap. There is a version that has multiple dongles for multiple outlets. My only need with it is you have to remember to turn it off otherwise you eat thru 9 volt batteries. On Mon., 8 Jul. 2019, 2:46 pm Matt Hall, <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > Thanks Everyone, > > So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal > Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People > have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking? > > Matt > > > > On 8 Jul 2019, at 12:00, public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au wrote: > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 04:17:11 +0000 > From: Steve Hille <stevehille84(a)gmail.com> > To: "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, > "public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au" <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > Message-ID: > < > CY4PR1001MB23915E4EBD4CD317180A0176F6F70(a)CY4PR1001MB2391.namprd10.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. > > > ________________________________ > From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > > Send Public mailing list submissions to > public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) > 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) > 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) > 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 > From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> > To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: <B15AF7A3-44F5-4085-B419-E761DA861CF4(a)screamsaver.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CAPrfDLXiv+X_mGEHhJ=s=fToVz66kVsnX7np3swYZ50Dg9JzAA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > > > Hello Folks, > > > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic > MK > > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > > > I want it to be able to: > > > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > > 2. survive POE voltage. > > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > > few data points at once > > > > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > > > Options I?ve found so far: > > > > Ideal networks > > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > > > Aegis has: > > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 > From: Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, > Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: <ad3ae94f-0105-aaba-2fb6-e6ae0c48ca4b(a)oeg.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of > cables > > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > > sockets ;) > > > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does > basically > > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings > etc > > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > > > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 > From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> > Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CAPrfDLW7NJ2Ga8jAYscJZ_iemR6=291XP6NO73ZT47-5NRMEmw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > > > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 > From: Andrew Gilbett <andrew(a)gilbett.net> > To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations > Message-ID: > <CABF3X9tirVpNdWyt3FzsHT4praHh5s9sfACRaG1FNx_=XLH9dg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! > > On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> > wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > > >> > >> I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > >> quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > >> > > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > > mobile :) > > > > Cheers > > > > DG > > -- > > > > Damien Gardner Jnr > > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > > -- > > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > > We danced among the lightning bolts, > > and tore the world asunder > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au

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Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3
by Steve Hille 07 Jul '19

07 Jul '19

I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting. ________________________________ From: Public <public-bounces(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> on behalf of public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 12:00 To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Send Public mailing list submissions to public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> To: public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <B15AF7A3-44F5-4085-B419-E761DA861CF4(a)screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Folks, Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. I want it to be able to: 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. 2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. Options I?ve found so far: Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLXiv+X_mGEHhJ=s=fToVz66kVsnX7np3swYZ50Dg9JzAA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall sockets ;) These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the Pockthernet :) On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall <matt(a)screamsaver.net> wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? > > Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK > lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers > wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. > > I want it to be able to: > > 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic > troubleshooting info on faulty cables. > 2. survive POE voltage. > 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. > 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a > few data points at once > > > My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. > > Options I?ve found so far: > > Ideal networks > VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 > > Aegis has: > Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 > LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 > LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 > > RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 From: Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au>, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <ad3ae94f-0105-aaba-2fb6-e6ae0c48ca4b(a)oeg.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot > like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables > at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall > sockets ;) > > These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. > I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically > anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc > so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans > configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic > into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC > port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP > identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does > TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed > on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a > serious gander at the Pockthernet :) > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. I can not see how to buy them from the website. Mike ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)oeg.com.au> Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CAPrfDLW7NJ2Ga8jAYscJZ_iemR6=291XP6NO73ZT47-5NRMEmw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... I can not see how to buy them from the website. Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on mobile :) Cheers DG -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 From: Andrew Gilbett <andrew(a)gilbett.net> To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: <CABF3X9tirVpNdWyt3FzsHT4praHh5s9sfACRaG1FNx_=XLH9dg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1 for the pocket ethernet, great device! On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, <rendrag(a)rendrag.net> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)oeg.com.au> wrote: > > > > > I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the > > quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start. > > > Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy... > > I can not see how to buy them from the website. > > > Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on > mobile :) > > Cheers > > DG > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag(a)rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public(a)talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ------------------------------ End of Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 *************************************

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Lan Cable Tester Recommendations
by Matt Hall 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

Hello Folks, Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using? Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed. I want it to be able to: 1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. 2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330. Options I’ve found so far: Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527 Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160 RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475

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High distance numbers on short wireless links
by Paul Julian 04 Jul '19

04 Jul '19

We have a couple of short range Mikrotik wireless links, in the range of a couple of hundred metres, they are running 802.11 protocol and have good CCQ and SNR, however I have noticed that the distance shown for the link is high, around 25km, but everything else is correct. The sync speeds are also good, however we are noticing some strange behaviour on them from time to time which indicates high latency and packet loss. Possibly it's interference, but if it was sporadic I would have thought the distance indication would be more accurate most of the time when it was working OK and had no interference. Being that the stats look good but the distance looks bad, does anybody have any suggestions on what to look for on these ? Thanks Paul

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USB lte/ppp hardware minus nat
by Aaron Chidiac 25 Jun '19

25 Jun '19

Hi All, As many of you on this list may of experienced, a typical USB LTE modem done by Huawei (i.e E3372 or E8372) has a fun feature called ‘hilink’ which makes it near-impossible to expose the WAN IP directly from the Mikrotik (nat you can’t disable), I’ve spent quite a bit of time looking at forums/learning russian to force it into ‘stick mode’ which would allow just basic ppp but I have not been successful (flashing the stickmode firmware fails when your modem is at a certain hilink version – plus it’s a huge list to get it there so not very feasible if were selling these often)… So my question is. Does anyone have a USB LTE modem working in Mikrotik without the NAT/DMZ/router mode? Whether it be a ppp interface or LTE. We are aware of the newer wAP LTE Kit and have a few of them out working perfectly (Thanks DuxTel & Mike!) in passthrough mode for failover but we want to see what options are there for USBs. We have an Optus layer 2 setup so we chuck our IPs on it. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Peripherals is a good list; but a modem that’s listed as ‘working’ may still have the double NAT situation so we are hesitant to go out and buy 10 different USB modems to see which works. Thanks, Aaron

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