Obviously I have a lot of customers who use Mikrotik devices as their main router. This is causing issues with the NBN's default method of delivering VOIP services as the short-sighted ISP's have all made the laughable assumption that everyone is going to use an ISP-provided CPE to plug their VOIP handset into. As you know these devices will pre-configure the SIP settings. For so many reasons, this of course is not the preferred setup, but it is left to me and others like me to explain why all of a sudden the VOIP service that comes bundled with the ISP's plan will not work with their equipment. I've been told that ISP's will not release the VOIP settings to end-users to facilitate the setup of a stand alone ATA such as the cisco SPA112. I'd just be interested to know how people are dealing with this situation. Cheers, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>