If anyone would care to donate a unit, I have a service I can test it on. And as an RSP, we have direct access to the NBN portal to request reactivation if it gets blocked :) -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:17 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] xDSL SFPs I think we're all pretty excited about the prospects of those VDSL2 and G.Fast SFP modules (I am getting FTTC so G.Fast is probably on the cards one day). I guess you can be the guinea pig and be the one to risk explaining to your ISP why your port should be unlocked. ;) On 26 July 2017 at 10:09, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
If you plug in a modem which does not support G.vector, the port will get shut down within ~10 minutes, and requires a support request from your RSP to NBNco to have the port re-enabled. They don't specifically detect modem model and shut down if they don't know the model though, as far as I know.
IPOE on ADSL is an interesting one, that'd make setup very easy!
On 26 July 2017 at 10:05, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) < jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Be careful, I remember reading that modems not tested and authorised for NBN use can cause the port to be locked. Until someone goes to the expense of having them tested and approved for use in Australia (cough .. Mike?) you may not get much joy. They might work on a bog standard ADSL line.
Speaking of which, I might be late to the party but I noticed that Telstra ADSL now supports IPoE as well as PPPoE/A. I reset an old cheapie/dodgy TPLink modem the other day for someone and without doing anything the PC connected did a DHCP request and got a public IP/DNS! When I set the modem up to do IPoE it picked all that up as well but for some reason wouldn't NAT or proxy the DNS. Wrote the modem off and we proceeded to order an NBN service.
On 26 July 2017 at 09:57, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Anyone else ordered one of the 180-T's yet? innet24.de are now selling them, but are waiting on a firmware update (due out next week) before they're shipping more units. Looking forward to getting one and seeing how they go on NBN, if I can remove one device from the network at home, I'll be very happy!
On 19 May 2017 at 08:08, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
Thanks for the responses everyone
Looks like we're using the double-sided tape again this time around :)
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commitment prior to even proving viable operation on any given network) and partly technical (vDSL definition is somewhat 'loose' in implementation such that there is no guarantee that something that works well with one vendor DSLAM will also work with every other)
At DuxTel, we've been trying to work out a solution for many months, and although we are closing on a potential outcome, there is no firm date for market readiness.
One thing that we know of thus far: - devices are real, and actually exist ;) - devices work with MikroTik RouterOS to the extent that they are recognised by SFP drivers and 'inserted module' parameters are reported correctly - MikroTik are 'on board' to develop further support to implement some form of configuration interface for routerOS and this type of device
Here is what we don't have yet: - commercial agreement with manufacturing vendor/s to support development of solution to work with any given vDSL service (read: NBN) - compliance testing documentation to support RCM eligbility for AU environment
What needs to happen before they are made available to the AU market: - compliance testing and certification - testing (and probably some driver/firmware development) to work with NBNCo DSLAMs and other DSLAM vendors
The big hurdle to the above is in coming to some commercial agreement with one or more vendors that satisfies their need to cover costs of final stages of development and compliance testing.
My assessment of where this is all at is that the manufacturer/s have developed some 'proof of concept' hardware that seems to implement a general form of vDSL (with ADSL fallback) BUT (and that's a big BUT) there is a lot of technical work to be done to deliver sufficient confidence that they will work reliably over any particular or general vDSL network. That is not even beginning to consider whether they are likely to meet any particular regulatory compliance requirements for AU or any other jurisdiction ;)
So short story is: they are coming, perhaps, but probably not any time soon :-J
Questions (on or off list) are welcome!
Cheers, Mike.
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On 18 May 2017, at 12:54 pm, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd chip in some commentary here since there is obviously plenty of interest :-}
There are at least two products around that implement some form of vDSL in an SFP module, but there are lots of hurdles preventing release to AU market which are partly commercial (vendor requests significant - circi USD100K
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