I have a script that adds filter rules. The rules are the sort that need to precede others, so I have "place- before=0" in the script. Mostly, that doesn't work. It fails with this message: the item referred by 'place-before' does not exist (11) This is demonstrably untrue. There are plenty of rules. It *seems* that if I manually print a rule listing before running my script, this error doesn't happen. That's not a useful solution... Stumped. Ideas? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer@nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB