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On 16 Dec 2017, at 6:55 am, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Interesting in 6.41rc66 today...
*) wireless - updated "UK 5.8 Fixed" and "Australia" regulatory domain information
Mike, do you know what was updated? DFS rules?
On 23 October 2017 at 12:05, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Harry, thanks for the comments!
(have you tried subscribing to the public list? What happens when you try to add a subscription?)
That is only the LIPD class license document but it does not list the relevant standards. The standards list some of the ETSI specifications which according to MT include radar detect operation. From MT perspective, they claim that DFS implies Radar Detect in the relevant standards. I have no doubt that it DOES make that link in the EU specification, but since our AU compliance requirements also refer to some ETSI standard then it is possible that our rules are also affected by the recent updates to relevant ETSI standards simply by association and since ACMA have not explicitly excluded that revision...
This is what I am attempting to ascertain ;)
So far, I have not been able to find the direct relationships and have been doing the rounds of some compliance folks to try to get to the bottom of it all. It may take some time :-1
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-----Original Message----- From: Harry Fiotakis [mailto:Harry.Fiotakis@tasmanet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 23 October 2017 10:39 AM To: Mike Everest (mike@duxtel.com) <mike@duxtel.com> Cc: Philip Loenneker <Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au> Subject: RE: [MT-AU Public] Radar detection Chaos Since 6.40.4
Morning Mike, Phil forwarded me the latest correspondence as I still have not been approved on the mailing list :(
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2015L01438 (Radiocommunications (Low Interference Potential Devices) Class Licence 2015)
5250-5350 Must use DFS 5470-5600 Must use DFS 5650-5725 Must use DFS
No Radar Detect required (it is not implied)
We will have to seek official clarification on that if Mikrotik require it, but with it forced on we are downgrading Mikrotik radios or simply not using them.
Regards,
Harry Fiotakis | TasmaNet 40-50 Innovation Drive, Tas 7010, Australia M: 0418 540 806 P: 1300 792 711 Email: harry.fiotakis@tasmanet.com.au
-----Original Message----- From: Philip Loenneker Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:30 AM To: Harry Fiotakis <Harry.Fiotakis@tasmanet.com.au> Subject: FW: [MT-AU Public] Radar detection Chaos Since 6.40.4
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Monday, 23 October 2017 9:50 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Radar detection Chaos Since 6.40.4
Further update on this issue,
I've had a bit of correspondence with them, but they are 'fighting' it. Latest comment from them is that "ETSI standard mentions when you use DFS and those ranges you need to use the Radar-detect. Radar detect is happening only for 1 minute."
The line they are taking is that since our LIPD class license specification says that DFS must be enabled for the sub 5785 channels, then radar detect must also be enabled. I've been trying to pore through all the relevant ACMA documentation so that I can find some definitive paragraph that clarifies the situation, but so far have drawn a blank.
I need someone who has some specific familiarity with the relevant rules and standard that can find something that will convince them to turn it off - any takers? :-}
Cheers, Mike.
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