That was exciting. I upgraded from 7.11.2 to 7.15.1 on my long- suffering home router (a hAP ac^3 that's always the first against the wall) and all the wireless interfaces disappeared. Not just disabled - they were no longer present in the interface list. I rapidly downgraded back to 7.11.2. Luckily only minor cuts and abrasions, thanks for asking. All the wireless interfaces came back. Maybe I should read changelogs more. I found this in the 7.13 changelog: "Drivers for older wireless and 60GHz interfaces, as well as the wireless management system CAPsMAN, are now part of a separate "wireless" package instead of being a part of the bundle package. This package can be uninstalled if not needed." Cool, cool... Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer@nullarbor.com.au, he/him) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 Please feel free to deal with this email during your own working hours.