Hello Matt, There was no explicit timeline offered by NBNCo as to network update roll-out other than they would offer "ample time" to RSPs to address the issue. And YES - without action on firmware of existing Proscend/Metanoia modems, it is highly probable that they will no longer sync to NBN DSLAMs after the configuration changes. If you are affected, then either contact your NBNCo rep for further detail if you are an RSP, else contact your RSP/wholesaler for further advice. We'll keep this forum updated with progress as is made... At this stage I expect that we will have a solution well ahead of the network update, but at 'this stage', that is really only an expectation rather than certainty :-} Cheers! Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2021 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au>; alen@duxtel.com Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems?
this one just caught my eye. Do we have any timeline for when NBNco will be upgrading their DSLAM's and am i reading this correctly that after the upgrade the Modems will no longer operate.
Matt
Hi Jim,
Very good question, and I will do my best to answer. : )
At this stage, ongoing stock will continue to be manufactured and dispatched with current firmware.
However, we are in the process of upgrading a handful of modules and working towards having some form of field testing data to confirm future support - post NBNco DSLAM proposed upgrades of course.
We understand some 'resellers' have hundreds of units in operation and having them all upgraded in a timely manner will be a challenge.
What we are working on in the background, - New firmware/tool for public release to resellers - Possibly an exchange program, upgrade units shipped & original returned - Field upgradable option, i.e., time bombed firmware updater or one-time use installer (image)
Please note: we are yet to determine best upgrade path, but will keep you posted with any updates ASAP.
Thanks,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jim Woodward Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2021 1:00 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems?
Hi Alen,
Sorry that was more of a Duxtel specific question, you obviously cant speak for any other suppliers or sources :)
Kind Regards,
Jim.
On 13-05-2021 12:56, Jim Woodward wrote:
Hi Alen,
Would it be fair to say that any future purchases of the Proscend 180T SFP's will come with the new/current firmware applied prior to shipping?
Kind Regards,
Jim.
On 13-05-2021 12:47, alen@duxtel.com wrote:
Hi Tim,
Update!
I have liaised with the manufacturer and they suggest the new firmware does support PVC (8/35) for ADSL.
Unfortunately, we are not permitted to share firmware and tool for public access - yet.
Kind regards,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Tim Sandy Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2021 8:21 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems?
Hi Alen,
If it is indeed 8/35 that's not supported on the new firmware, and presumably any brand new SFP device would run the new firmware - I read this to mean new devices will not support Aus network. This is a huge problem for us.
If it's only 8/36 that doesn't work with the new firmware, then it sounds like our immediate problem is solved.
Any chance you could share a link to this firmware update tool? I could test it out on an aus nbn fttn service.
Cheers,
Tim
On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 19:01, < <mailto:alen@duxtel.com> alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Tim, I am confirming with the manufacturer if VPC 8/35 is also not supported. One would think so, as many Australian DSL networks (including NBN) use VPI=8 and VCI=35 parameters. Apologies, I was keen on sharing ALL the info we have gathered to date, but going back through the correspondence 8/36 is definitely mentioned.
I will keep you posted, as soon as further is known. Further questions/comments/feedback welcome. Kind regards, Alen -----Original Message----- From: Public < <mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Tim
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Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems? Hi Alen, Don't want to be picky but did you mean 8/35? -Tim -----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems? Hi Damian, Thank you for your SOS/ROC DSLAM deployment report. We have liaised with the NBNco engineer who initially identified and reported the parameters compatibility between the Proscend PS180-T VDSL2 SFP Modem (Telco CPE) and proposed AU DSLAM updates. As a result of this report, we have subsequently been in contact with Proscend (Metanoia chipset manufacturer) seeking official statement from ALL parties. What is known so far, NBNco to enable new SOS/ROC parameters on AU DSLAM ports Earlier firmware is not compatible with the above changes Proscend have already released firmware upgrade and tool Latest firmware supports SOS/ROC for VDSL applications Latest Proscend firmware does NOT support VPC (8/36) for AU ADSL applications What is not known so far, When we can expect NEW firmware, which addresses both SOS/ROC and ADSL VPC paramters Can the new firmware and tool be readily available for public release Does the new firmware still support current VPC AU ADSL paramters We are treating NBNco's proposed DSLAM changes with the upmost importance and are working with Proscend (Metanoia - chipset manufacturer) for a timely solution. We will keep you posted with any developments as they come to hand. Kind regards, Alen -----Original Message----- From: Public < <mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of
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Subject: [MT-AU Public] Updated Firmware for the Proscend 180T SFP VDSL2 Modems? Does anyone know if there is an Updated firmware available for the Metanoia/Proscend VDSL SFP's? There is a note from NBNCo relating to them being made unusable in the next three months due to incompatibility with new features being enabled on FTTN DSLAM ports. THe note seems to suggest by 'older' firmware that maybe there is a newer firmware available? Anyone know? Would be nice if I could keep using mine :) "A Metanoia SFP device with older firmware failed to negotiate synchronization at all once SOS and ROC was enabled on the DSLAM
On 5/13/21 1:39 PM, alen@duxtel.com wrote: port.
RSPs with services identified with these devices (approximately 700 network wide) will be notified to coordinate an update or replacement of these devices before network SOS/ROC deployment occurs." Thanks, DG -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust <mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net> rendrag@rendrag.net - <http://www.rendrag.net/> http://www.rendrag.net/
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