Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
Sounds interesting. Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC. I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre. It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching. So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Hi Alex, Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN. My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC.
I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre.
It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching.
So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run
Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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Hmm okay. So you have a bunch of Mac's that want fast file access. You are going to connect via iSCSI or nfs ? Sounds like you are in a building. So I still think 10G switch SAN storage attaches to it ( DAC cable(s) ) MAC to switch ... just like cat cabling, but run fibre... ??? but do the mac 10G adaptors do fibre ??? they might only be 10Gb-T. If so find a switch that has 10GBT and SFP+ (probably the SFP+ will be for stacking but use it to connect the NAS/SAN device). Then run fibre (or cat 6??) to the dekstops. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi Alex, Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN. My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC.
I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre.
It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching.
So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run
Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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I think Alex is on the money here, if you are talking 10G to PC's or Mac's I would go CAT6, anything connecting equipment to other equipment I would go fibre every time. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:30 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hmm okay. So you have a bunch of Mac's that want fast file access. You are going to connect via iSCSI or nfs ? Sounds like you are in a building. So I still think 10G switch SAN storage attaches to it ( DAC cable(s) ) MAC to switch ... just like cat cabling, but run fibre... ??? but do the mac 10G adaptors do fibre ??? they might only be 10Gb-T. If so find a switch that has 10GBT and SFP+ (probably the SFP+ will be for stacking but use it to connect the NAS/SAN device). Then run fibre (or cat 6??) to the dekstops. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi Alex, Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN. My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC.
I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre.
It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching.
So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run
Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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Thanks everyone - I should have explained my topology a bit better to start with, I was already taking it as read that any inter-rack connections would be fibre / SFP or DAC (Thanks Murray - a new one on me). The real question was the connections out to the access / desktop layer - I have heard of fibre being used in this situation but I think it's a bit more niche. To answer your question Alex I will be using a hybrid of NFS (or even - god help me - SMB / AFP) and iSCSI. The iSCSI connections will be for super fast block level file access for the High Def files and the file level connections will be for standard file sharing. Murray - the 2.5gb stuff sounds interesting but for future proofing I think I would like to make the leap all the way to 10G, especially given the sizes of the files they want to collaborate on. Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Paul Julian <paul@oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
I think Alex is on the money here, if you are talking 10G to PC's or Mac's I would go CAT6, anything connecting equipment to other equipment I would go fibre every time.
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:30 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hmm okay.
So you have a bunch of Mac's that want fast file access. You are going to connect via iSCSI or nfs ?
Sounds like you are in a building.
So I still think
10G switch SAN storage attaches to it ( DAC cable(s) )
MAC to switch ... just like cat cabling, but run fibre... ??? but do the mac 10G adaptors do fibre ??? they might only be 10Gb-T. If so find a switch that has 10GBT and SFP+ (probably the SFP+ will be for stacking but use it to connect the NAS/SAN device).
Then run fibre (or cat 6??) to the dekstops. Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi Alex,
Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN.
My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way?
Ben
On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" < Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC.
I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre.
It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching.
So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run
Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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OK - next question - given that I will require 10Gbe connections to the desktop - can anyone recommend a good 10Gbe capable switch for this purpose? Ben Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Ben Jackson <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Thanks everyone - I should have explained my topology a bit better to start with, I was already taking it as read that any inter-rack connections would be fibre / SFP or DAC (Thanks Murray - a new one on me).
The real question was the connections out to the access / desktop layer - I have heard of fibre being used in this situation but I think it's a bit more niche.
To answer your question Alex I will be using a hybrid of NFS (or even - god help me - SMB / AFP) and iSCSI. The iSCSI connections will be for super fast block level file access for the High Def files and the file level connections will be for standard file sharing.
Murray - the 2.5gb stuff sounds interesting but for future proofing I think I would like to make the leap all the way to 10G, especially given the sizes of the files they want to collaborate on.
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Paul Julian <paul@oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
I think Alex is on the money here, if you are talking 10G to PC's or Mac's I would go CAT6, anything connecting equipment to other equipment I would go fibre every time.
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:30 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hmm okay.
So you have a bunch of Mac's that want fast file access. You are going to connect via iSCSI or nfs ?
Sounds like you are in a building.
So I still think
10G switch SAN storage attaches to it ( DAC cable(s) )
MAC to switch ... just like cat cabling, but run fibre... ??? but do the mac 10G adaptors do fibre ??? they might only be 10Gb-T. If so find a switch that has 10GBT and SFP+ (probably the SFP+ will be for stacking but use it to connect the NAS/SAN device).
Then run fibre (or cat 6??) to the dekstops. Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi Alex,
Yep it would need to be 10g from end to end as the individual iMacs will need to reap the benefit of the extra bandwidth. I.e they will be the ones streaming large files from the SAN.
My thoughts were to install thunderbolt 10gbe adaptors on each iMac to allow this. The advantage being that only one connection per mac would be needed as opposed to a fibre san which would need a separate fibre connection for each client? Or maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way?
Ben
On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" < Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Sounds interesting.
Q) you doing 10G from workstation to datacentre ? or just the cluster of servers in the DC.
I personally like SFP+ modules- you can choice between fibre or ... if I can't use SMOF, or if it's in the same rack, I go with DAC cables. They have the SFP and cable pre attached .. you can be a bit more rough with them compare to fibre.
It sounds like a rack with servers, storage and switching.
So Office -> rack area ??? not sure depends on run
Server -> switch ... DAC Switch -> storage .. DAC
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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Hi Ben, I would always use fibre for anything more than a couple of metres on 10G, even for that I would use fibre. With the array of pre-terminated fibre cabling out now it's just as easy to run fibre as it is to run copper virtually, yes it costs a bit more but you can upgrade in the future with no cabling changes needed, it's a no brainer for us in such situations. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Thanks Paul. Do I need to go out and do a fibre installation course or could I just go ahead and do it with my current cabling knowledge? The premises is an old double brick building. What sorts of things do I need to be aware of when running fibre vs cat6? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Paul Julian" <paul@oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben, I would always use fibre for anything more than a couple of metres on 10G, even for that I would use fibre.
With the array of pre-terminated fibre cabling out now it's just as easy to run fibre as it is to run copper virtually, yes it costs a bit more but you can upgrade in the future with no cabling changes needed, it's a no brainer for us in such situations.
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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Hi Ben, not really, they usually come pre-terminated ready to connect into an SFC module. 4Cabling has them up to 30M or so with LC connectors on both ends, you obviously need to protect them more than CAT6 but for equipment to equipment connections it's easy, in some situations you may be best to run it in conduit but it depends on how likely it would be disturbed. http://www.4cabling.com.au/fibre-products/singlemode-fibre-patch-leads/lc-lc... I think they can make them up whatever length you need, it's a simple process to run them once you get the right length and know what connectors you need on them, obviously that will depend on which module you have or use in your gear. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 5:25 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Thanks Paul. Do I need to go out and do a fibre installation course or could I just go ahead and do it with my current cabling knowledge? The premises is an old double brick building. What sorts of things do I need to be aware of when running fibre vs cat6? Ben On 8 Aug 2016 16:41, "Paul Julian" <paul@oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben, I would always use fibre for anything more than a couple of metres on 10G, even for that I would use fibre.
With the array of pre-terminated fibre cabling out now it's just as easy to run fibre as it is to run copper virtually, yes it costs a bit more but you can upgrade in the future with no cabling changes needed, it's a no brainer for us in such situations.
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN
Hi all,
I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration).
I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+.
My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre.
Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic?
Thanks,
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Hi Ben, I would recommend DAC for inside your rack, and fibre for anything that leaves your rack at 10G. If you are looking to get faster than 1G to the desktop machines via an RJ45 copper connection, you can go faster than 1G without jumping all the way to 10G. If you have legacy CAT5e already installed 2.5G capable switches and NIC's should get you a significant speed boost between desktop and switch. Kind regards Murray Southwell -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 4:35 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: [MT-AU Public] 10GBase-T SAN Hi all, I'm looking at implementing a iSCSI SAN / NAS hybrid solution for one of my clients who runs a production studio (24bit multi-track audio and up to 4k video collaboration). I haven't, however had any experience with installing 10Gbe networks as yet, and know very little about them apart from that cat6a is required to go over 100m and that latency is higher with copper vs SFP+. My initial reaction was to go with 10GBase-T as it's a familiar format to me (especially where running cable is concerned) but I'm happy to be convinced on the merits of running fibre. Does anyone have any experiences they can share on this topic? Thanks, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
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