Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9
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1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 (kevin @ scotts ip)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:56:49 +0000 (UTC) From: "kevin @ scotts ip" <kevin@scottsip.com.au> To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 7 Message-ID:
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Matt You stated that you use electricians with certification testers..
If they are certifying that the cable is tested for cat 6 / cat 6 E
Matt, I always considered having the right tools for the job is a necessary part of any ICT tool kit. I have Ethernet testers, ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+/VDSL/VDSL2/Fibre tester, Cable identifiers/tracers, Software tools to track, trace and monitor links and everything else Etc... The pocketethernet is one that I have considered in the past and thought about purchasing - it is really good kit, but I had decided to utilise Fluke for testing cabling by renting that kit. The Fluke kit is an expense that is out of reach and the technology changes regularly - so ROI is a problem. Keep the sparkies/cablers honest and verify what they are selling you is legitimate using the pocketethernet device is a great idea. Regards, Kevin Scott's IP connecting you anywhere web: http://www.scottsip.com.au email: kevin@scottsip.com.au mobile: 0419-650-550 work: (03) 9008-5696 fax: (03) 9008-5686 ABN: 91 614 656 594 hours: Monday to Friday 8:30am to 5:00pm - Saturdays by appointment only. Scott's IP Pty Ltd is now providing business grade Voice, Data products and NBN services - contact us for your connection. -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of public-request@talk.mikrotik.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:00 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9 Send Public mailing list submissions to public@talk.mikrotik.com.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to public-request@talk.mikrotik.com.au You can reach the person managing the list at public-owner@talk.mikrotik.com.au When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Public digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:05:36 +1000 From: Matt Hall <matt@screamsaver.net> To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 Message-ID: <FE3C9C5B-C72F-4CC9-9BB9-5912030861FC@screamsaver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Kev. I want a tester for troubleshooting when things aren?t going according to plan or if I want to find out what?s what in a copper wire bird?s nest. If I want cable laid I get someone else on the job with the right tools. Looks like the pockethernet will be just right for the job. Too late now anyway, I bought one. :) Matt performance then I don't see why youd need a tester.
Or do you mean the sparkies are just performing a wire map test only, and
the reason you need another device to ensure what they are doing.
On a side note if I do a job for a customer.
I would be using a fluke to test the performance of the cable, certify the
cabling and connection points,? as an integral part of the scope of works. The fluke device I use for structured cabling for customers is the only way I can guarantee that the backbone of the network is capable and ready. It also offers peace of mind for the IT department,? but then again I'm not a sparky, I'm a Structured Cabler, Telco technical Officer of many many years.
Kev
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Kevin
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1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 (Matt Hall)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:17:55 +1000 From: Matt Hall To: Mikrotik Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I got my pockethernet yesterday. It only took a few days to ship from
Thanks for the tips everyone.
Matt
On 8 Jul 2019, at 14:45, Matt Hall wrote:
Thanks Everyone,
So Pockethernet seems like a good option, all the features of the Ideal Networks VDV II Pro and maybe more? Around $350 instead of $800 ish. People have mentioned build quality, has anyone had issues with them breaking?
Matt
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1. Re: Public Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 (Steve Hille)
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I second the Pockethernet, fantastic device for basic troubleshooting.
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1. Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Matt Hall) 2. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 3. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Mike O'Connor) 4. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Damien Gardner Jnr) 5. Re: Lan Cable Tester Recommendations (Andrew Gilbett)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +1000 From: Matt Hall To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hello Folks,
Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using?
Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed.
I want it to be able to:
1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic
Germany. troubleshooting info on faulty cables.
2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once
My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330.
Options I?ve found so far:
Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527
Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160
RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:51:01 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID:
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Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall sockets ;)
These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the Pockthernet :)
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Matt Hall wrote:
Hello Folks,
Looking for some advice for a lan cable tester. What are you all using?
Typical jobs for me are home, small business and pubs. Setting up basic MK lans and wlans. I use electricians with cable certification testers wherever possible to lay new cable or replace faulty ones when needed.
I want it to be able to:
1. Check for continuity between 2 data points and get some basic troubleshooting info on faulty cables. 2. survive POE voltage. 2. Be under $500, ideally less if possible. 3. Nice to have but not essential: 3 or so remote units so I can test a few data points at once
My pick at this point is the Ideal Network VDV II Plus for around $330.
Options I?ve found so far:
Ideal networks VDV II, VDV II Plus and VDV II Pro for $184, $327 and $527
Aegis has: Pinga Network IP Test Tool for $295 LAN Tester RJ45 for $110 LAN Tester - RJ45, Coax, Tone $160
RS PRO Network Cable Tester F, RJ12, RJ45, 2670 from rs components $475
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 19:57:22 +0930 From: Mike O'Connor To: MikroTik Australia Public List , Damien Gardner Jnr Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 6/7/19 7:21 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: Back when I was cabling for a living, I had a nice unit that looked a lot like the VDV II Pro - it made life VERY easy when pulling a bunch of cables at once and then needing to identify them between patch panels and wall sockets ;)
These days though, I just have a Pockethernet. Damned thing is fantastic. I charge it maybe once a year. Bluetooth's to my phone, and does basically anything you could possibly want. You can even configure vlan settings etc so can verify voice and data vlan settings on ports with voice+data vlans configured for VOIP phones that're configured to drop their own traffic into a voice vlan, and then pass traffic from a data vlan out their PC port.. Displays POE info, wiremap, Cisco CDP, and also standard LLDP identification so it works on other vendors' switches as well. Oh, does TDR as well. I love the thing! Probably the best thing I've ever backed on Kickstarter. If you don't need the multiple remote probes, have a serious gander at the Pockthernet :)
I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start.
I can not see how to buy them from the website.
Mike
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:30:48 +1000 From: Damien Gardner Jnr To: "Mike O'Connor" Cc: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID:
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On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote:
I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start.
Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy...
I can not see how to buy them from the website.
Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on mobile :)
Cheers
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Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:56:03 +1000 From: Andrew Gilbett To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Lan Cable Tester Recommendations Message-ID:
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+1 for the pocket ethernet, great device!
On Sat, 6 Jul. 2019, 20:31 Damien Gardner Jnr, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 8:27 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote:
I have a Pockethernet its a great device, the only issue I have is the quality the wiremap/loopback terminator mine was crap from the start.
Yeah true, It could be made more professionally.. it looks a bit iffy...
I can not see how to buy them from the website.
Are you on https://pockethernet.com ? There?s a big order now button on mobile :)
Cheers
DG --
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