Hi guys, I am hoping somebody might have come across this problem before. We have a customer Mikrotik CCR which runs just over 1000 vlans, pretty much all are QinQ, so we have a couple of parent VLANS with the rest hanging off those, some parents have a couple of hundred vlans hanging off them each. Everything is working fine except one strange thing. On one of the inner VLAN's when it's created it doesn't inherit the MAC address of its parent physical interface, the MAC just stays blank. I have recreated the VLAN from scratch, tried changing the VLAN ID, the name of the VLAN interface, etc but nothing I do gets a MAC address in there unless I assign it to a different physical interface. The particular VLAN which is the outer tag has about 220 VLANS hanging off it, all of which are working fine except this one. Has anybody come across this at all ? The router is running V6.10, I would update but there is a change freeze on so not really possible at the moment.... Thanks Paul
Hi Paul, Never seen or heard anything like that before today! If you can send us a supout (to support@duxtel.com) I'd like to see it :) Could it be some kind of interface/winbox bug? Does it also appear in shell, e.g.: :put [/int vlan get <vlan_name> mac-address] So this q-in-q vlan with trouble - is it the 221st only that makes trouble? i.e. if you add a 222nd, does it behave different? I wonder if it has something to do with the number of bits in the tag? Incidentally, you can easily count the number of vlans by printing with 'where' clause: /int vlan pr where interface=outer-vlan-name And look at the line numbers in output. Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Monday, 7 July 2014 10:06 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi guys, I am hoping somebody might have come across this problem before.
We have a customer Mikrotik CCR which runs just over 1000 vlans, pretty much all are QinQ, so we have a couple of parent VLANS with the rest hanging off those, some parents have a couple of hundred vlans hanging off them each.
Everything is working fine except one strange thing. On one of the inner VLAN's when it's created it doesn't inherit the MAC address of its parent physical interface, the MAC just stays blank. I have recreated the VLAN from scratch, tried changing the VLAN ID, the name of the VLAN interface, etc but nothing I do gets a MAC address in there unless I assign it to a different physical interface.
The particular VLAN which is the outer tag has about 220 VLANS hanging off it, all of which are working fine except this one.
Has anybody come across this at all ? The router is running V6.10, I would update but there is a change freeze on so not really possible at the moment....
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Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 9:54 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Never seen or heard anything like that before today! If you can send us a supout (to support@duxtel.com) I'd like to see it :)
Could it be some kind of interface/winbox bug? Does it also appear in shell, e.g.:
:put [/int vlan get <vlan_name> mac-address]
So this q-in-q vlan with trouble - is it the 221st only that makes trouble? i.e. if you add a 222nd, does it behave different? I wonder if it has something to do with the number of bits in the tag?
Incidentally, you can easily count the number of vlans by printing with 'where' clause:
/int vlan pr where interface=outer-vlan-name
And look at the line numbers in output.
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Monday, 7 July 2014 10:06 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi guys, I am hoping somebody might have come across this problem before.
We have a customer Mikrotik CCR which runs just over 1000 vlans, pretty much all are QinQ, so we have a couple of parent VLANS with the rest hanging off those, some parents have a couple of hundred vlans hanging off them each.
Everything is working fine except one strange thing. On one of the inner VLAN's when it's created it doesn't inherit the MAC address of its parent physical interface, the MAC just stays blank. I have recreated the VLAN from scratch, tried changing the VLAN ID, the name of the VLAN interface, etc but nothing I do gets a MAC address in there unless I assign it to a different physical interface.
The particular VLAN which is the outer tag has about 220 VLANS hanging off it, all of which are working fine except this one.
Has anybody come across this at all ? The router is running V6.10, I would update but there is a change freeze on so not really possible at the moment....
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Nothing unusual about the number 84... What is the outer vlan ID? Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
It is twice the meaning of life and the universe ... -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:04 To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem Nothing unusual about the number 84... What is the outer vlan ID? Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Lol, yeh if it was 42 I would be concerned :-) Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:59 am, "Steve at Digitronics" <steve@digitronics.com.au> wrote:
It is twice the meaning of life and the universe ...
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:04 To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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A most concise observation! :-D
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Steve at Digitronics Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:02 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
It is twice the meaning of life and the universe ...
Hi Paul, I had the same problem 14 months ago on a CCR, also doing QinQ. From memory if I added the CVID it would not work, remove and re-add, still not working. Remove, reboot then re-add and it worked. This was on one of the 6.0rc releases, and I assumed that it was due to it being a RC release. It might be worth logging a ticket with support@mikrotik.com if it is something you can reliably reproduce. Regards, Andrew On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
A most concise observation! :-D
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Steve at Digitronics Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:02 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
It is twice the meaning of life and the universe ...
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Outer id is 9 mike Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Hmm - doesn't do it for me :-} Is the vlan9 on a physical Ethernet interface, or something else? Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:02 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Outer id is 9 mike
Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Hi Mike, the vlan is on a bonding interface, the bonding interface is setup for LACP and has one physical interface and one vlan interface in it as a fake slave, there aren't any vlan overlaps anywhere so I am sure it's not that. After a disable/enable of the parent vlan interface (vlan 9) the other vlan (84) came up just fine, no other changes....voodoo vlans :-) I love Mikrotik at times like this ! Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:23 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem Hmm - doesn't do it for me :-} Is the vlan9 on a physical Ethernet interface, or something else? Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:02 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Outer id is 9 mike
Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Fancy that... I reckon it might be a neat idea to try build some repository of these little glitches. Maybe categorise them into groups - that way when others have similar problems, there could be a simple solution like that available. Or would that double up on Andrew's bug tracker project? Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 8:55 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi Mike, the vlan is on a bonding interface, the bonding interface is setup for LACP and has one physical interface and one vlan interface in it as a fake slave, there aren't any vlan overlaps anywhere so I am sure it's not that.
After a disable/enable of the parent vlan interface (vlan 9) the other vlan (84) came up just fine, no other changes....voodoo vlans :-) I love Mikrotik at times like this !
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:23 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hmm - doesn't do it for me :-}
Is the vlan9 on a physical Ethernet interface, or something else?
Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:02 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Outer id is 9 mike
Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Someone could take it over if they wanted; I don't really have the time to keep it as tidy as I'd like although there is a reasonable collection of verified bugs in there now :-) - Andrew On 14 July 2014 11:29, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Fancy that...
I reckon it might be a neat idea to try build some repository of these little glitches. Maybe categorise them into groups - that way when others have similar problems, there could be a simple solution like that available.
Or would that double up on Andrew's bug tracker project?
Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 8:55 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi Mike, the vlan is on a bonding interface, the bonding interface is setup for LACP and has one physical interface and one vlan interface in it as a fake slave, there aren't any vlan overlaps anywhere so I am sure it's not that.
After a disable/enable of the parent vlan interface (vlan 9) the other vlan (84) came up just fine, no other changes....voodoo vlans :-) I love Mikrotik at times like this !
Regards Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:23 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hmm - doesn't do it for me :-}
Is the vlan9 on a physical Ethernet interface, or something else?
Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:02 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Outer id is 9 mike
Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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Paul, RouterOS 6.16rc has fixes for possible NAND corruption on CCR that can cause configuration anomalies. Maybe this is what you are experiencing. http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/routeros-tile-6latest.npk *) snmp - support AES encryption (rfc3826); *) l2tp server: added option to enable IPsec automatically; *) poe-out: added power-cycle-ping and power-cycle-interval settings; *) gps - increased retry duration to 30 seconds; *) time - on routerboards, current time is saved in configuration on reboot and on clock adjustment, and is used to set initial time after reboot; *) sntp - disabling/enabling client was causing dynamic-servers to be ignored (bug introduced in 6.14); *) tilera - improved handling of bad blocks in nand; *) ipsec - allow multiple encryption algorithms per peer; *) email - support tls only connections; *) smb - fixed usb share issues after reboot *) snmp - fix v3 protocol time window checks; *) updated timezone information; *) quickset - added VPN settings for HomeAP mode; On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hmm - doesn't do it for me :-}
Is the vlan9 on a physical Ethernet interface, or something else?
Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 9:02 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Outer id is 9 mike
Regards Paul
On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:02 am, "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Nothing unusual about the number 84...
What is the outer vlan ID?
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Julian Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:46 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] VLAN MAC Address Problem
Hi mike, I know this will sound crazy but it's only when the vlanid is set to 84, on other parents there are inner tags of 84 which work fine, it must be just some crazy anomaly. I will try from the cli and see if it works though and will send you a supout for you to have a look at, it's certainly strange indeed
Regards Paul
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