Hi, I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit. The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible. I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers? It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;). Cheers, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
Hi Ben, Does it really need something that you can 'swap out' radio? Have you considered something like Groove52ac - it can use software selectable 2.4 or 5 GHz and ships with a dual band omnidirectional antenna. All up, it will probably cost about the same as your RB411U plus enclosure, plus antenna, plus radio, plus power supply! :-} Cheers! Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 2:31 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Hi Ben, The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit. The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n. Regards, Ben Farmer -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation Hi, I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit. The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible. I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers? It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;). Cheers, Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too. Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about? Best regards, Ben Jackson eLogik (Sent from my mobile device) On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
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I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running. The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too. Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about? Best regards, Ben Jackson eLogik (Sent from my mobile device) On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then. My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined? Ben Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
(Sent from my mobile device)
On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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Hi Ben, That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters Cheers! Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
(Sent from my mobile device)
On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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Hi Mike, OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away. Would you install a bigger antenna? Ben Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
(Sent from my mobile device)
On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk. mikrotik.com. au
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I suppose the other option would be to go more directional - would you think that is necessary for a 500m range? Ben Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Jackson - eLogik <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Hi Mike,
OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away.
Would you install a bigger antenna?
Ben
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
(Sent from my mobile device)
On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com. au
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I suppose the other option would be to go more directional - would you
It's always difficult to develop a 1-size-fits-all approach when the other part of the equation is unknown ;) Yes, probably once you move beyond about 50m in the open air, a directional antenna becomes more sensible. There are many panel antenna options available for 2 and 5Ghz that will do the job. Most of them have an N-Female bulkhead antenna connector so you can attach the Groove direct if need be, by a right-angle N-to-N adapter, or by a short bit of antenna cable. Perhaps you need to consider adding a few of each kind to your standard site-kit so you have it all handy to deploy depending on the situation you encounter? Cheers! Mike. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Why Choose DuxTel for all your MikroTik needs? 10 good reasons: http://duxtel.com/why_duxtel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Follow our tweets for news and updates: http://twitter.com/duxtel think
that is necessary for a 500m range?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Jackson - eLogik <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Hi Mike,
OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away.
Would you install a bigger antenna?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
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Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
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Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
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On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
Hi Ben,
The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit.
The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n.
Regards, Ben Farmer
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Hi,
I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) antenna and also swap out the 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit.
The range to the access point from the station will be variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible.
I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers?
It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;).
Cheers,
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Thanks Mike. I realise it's all a bit hypothetical at the moment. As an all in one directional solution, would something like the SXT 5ac work? Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
It's always difficult to develop a 1-size-fits-all approach when the other part of the equation is unknown ;)
Yes, probably once you move beyond about 50m in the open air, a directional antenna becomes more sensible. There are many panel antenna options available for 2 and 5Ghz that will do the job. Most of them have an N-Female bulkhead antenna connector so you can attach the Groove direct if need be, by a right-angle N-to-N adapter, or by a short bit of antenna cable.
Perhaps you need to consider adding a few of each kind to your standard site-kit so you have it all handy to deploy depending on the situation you encounter?
Cheers!
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-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 12:44 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
I suppose the other option would be to go more directional - would you think that is necessary for a 500m range?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Jackson - eLogik <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Hi Mike,
OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away.
Would you install a bigger antenna?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
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On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Ben, > > The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it > features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots (allowing > for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then the RB411 may suit. > > The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between > 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n. > > Regards, > Ben Farmer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On > Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation > > Hi, > > I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use in > station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) > antenna and also swap out the > 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers have > 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz n/ac > access points so I want a platform that I can vary the 802.11 card to suit. > > The range to the access point from the station will be > variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may not be feasible. > > I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an > enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers? > > It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;). > > Cheers, > > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > m:0404 924745 > e: ben@elogik.net > w: www.elogik.com.au > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com. > au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik .com . au
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Although the SXT-5ac does have two wlan interfaces, though only the 5Ghz radio is suitable for a link. The 2.4Ghz radio is an low gain omni direction sort and is only designed for use when aligning the antennas so it shouldn't do well over any distance more than a few meters. -Josh -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation Thanks Mike. I realise it's all a bit hypothetical at the moment. As an all in one directional solution, would something like the SXT 5ac work? Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
It's always difficult to develop a 1-size-fits-all approach when the other part of the equation is unknown ;)
Yes, probably once you move beyond about 50m in the open air, a directional antenna becomes more sensible. There are many panel antenna options available for 2 and 5Ghz that will do the job. Most of them have an N-Female bulkhead antenna connector so you can attach the Groove direct if need be, by a right-angle N-to-N adapter, or by a short bit of antenna cable.
Perhaps you need to consider adding a few of each kind to your standard site-kit so you have it all handy to deploy depending on the situation you encounter?
Cheers!
Mike. ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- -------- Why Choose DuxTel for all your MikroTik needs? 10 good reasons: http://duxtel.com/why_duxtel ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- -------- Follow our tweets for news and updates: http://twitter.com/duxtel
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I suppose the other option would be to go more directional - would you think that is necessary for a 500m range?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Jackson - eLogik <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Hi Mike,
OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away.
Would you install a bigger antenna?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole and plugging the cable in to get up and running.
The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable between 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too.
Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about?
Best regards,
Ben Jackson eLogik
(Sent from my mobile device)
On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Ben, > > The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it > features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots > (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then > the RB411 may suit. > > The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between > 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n. > > Regards, > Ben Farmer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] > On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation > > Hi, > > I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use > in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) > antenna and also swap out the > 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers > have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz > n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the > 802.11 card to suit. > > The range to the access point from the station will be > variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may > not be feasible. > > I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an > enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers? > > It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;). > > Cheers, > > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > m:0404 924745 > e: ben@elogik.net > w: www.elogik.com.au > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mi > k rotik.com. > au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mi > k rotik.com. > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikr otik .com . au
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Ok thanks Josh. I think I'll wait until I've done an actual site visit and get back to you. Thanks everyone for their input. Ben Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Josh Oberin <josh@duxtel.com> wrote:
Although the SXT-5ac does have two wlan interfaces, though only the 5Ghz radio is suitable for a link. The 2.4Ghz radio is an low gain omni direction sort and is only designed for use when aligning the antennas so it shouldn't do well over any distance more than a few meters.
-Josh
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 5:20 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks Mike. I realise it's all a bit hypothetical at the moment.
As an all in one directional solution, would something like the SXT 5ac work?
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
It's always difficult to develop a 1-size-fits-all approach when the other part of the equation is unknown ;)
Yes, probably once you move beyond about 50m in the open air, a directional antenna becomes more sensible. There are many panel antenna options available for 2 and 5Ghz that will do the job. Most of them have an N-Female bulkhead antenna connector so you can attach the Groove direct if need be, by a right-angle N-to-N adapter, or by a short bit of antenna cable.
Perhaps you need to consider adding a few of each kind to your standard site-kit so you have it all handy to deploy depending on the situation you encounter?
Cheers!
Mike. ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- -------- Why Choose DuxTel for all your MikroTik needs? 10 good reasons: http://duxtel.com/why_duxtel ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- -------- Follow our tweets for news and updates: http://twitter.com/duxtel
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 12:44 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
I suppose the other option would be to go more directional - would you think that is necessary for a 500m range?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Jackson - eLogik <ben@elogik.net> wrote:
Hi Mike,
OK a couple of concerns here - the AP's vary greatly in brand / type so I can't be sure the antenna's will be aligned and also I've just been informed that the AP can be up to 500m away.
Would you install a bigger antenna?
Ben
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
That antenna will be OK over 100m so long as: - it is installed with antenna mounted vertically - the AP has a similar antenna/alignment - there are minimal obstacles/obstructions - there is low interference from other transmitters
Cheers!
Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 9:19 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation
Thanks - sounds like it's the Groove all the way then.
My knowledge of antennas is pretty limited - is a 6Dbi 2.4Ghz / 8Dbi 5Ghz good for the type of setup I have outlined?
Ben
Ben Jackson eLogik m:0404 924745 e: ben@elogik.net w: www.elogik.com.au [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] <http://www.elogik.com.au>
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Jackson <thomas@thomax.com.au> wrote:
> I've used the Groove 52 (the original model without 802.11ac) > in a similar setup before, works very well. If you can get > away with the included omni antenna, it is simply a matter of > using a couple of hose clamps to mount the Groove to a pole > and plugging the cable in to get up and running. > > The only benefit that I can see in the board + card + > enclosure + antenna solution is if you need more flexibility > - eg installing a 4G card, multiple Ethernet ports, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On > Behalf Of > Ben Jackson - eLogik > Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 8:53 AM > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> > Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation > > Thanks very much Mike and Ben. The Groove AC sounds ideal if > it can be used as a station, is weatherproof and switchable > between > 2.4 and 5Ghz, it will reduce my build time too. > > Are there any advantages in going for the board + card + > enclosure + antenna solution that Ben is talking about? > > Best regards, > > Ben Jackson > eLogik > > (Sent from my mobile device) > > On 6 Feb 2017 2:49 PM, "Ben Farmer" > <ben.farmer@myport.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Ben, > > > > The RB433 board may also be a good board to look at, as it > > features three Ethernet ports and three miniPCI slots > > (allowing for multiple cards). If size is a matter, then > > the RB411 may suit. > > > > The R52HnD is also a good card, and can be changed between > > 2.4GHz and 5GHz, with support for 802.11a/b/g/n. > > > > Regards, > > Ben Farmer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] > > On Behalf Of Ben Jackson - eLogik > > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 13:31 > > To: MikroTik Australia Public List > > <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> > > Subject: [MT-AU Public] Hardware Recommendation > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm needing advice on Mikrotik (or other) hardware to use > > in station mode to which I can connect a 2.4 / 5 Ghz (Omni) > > antenna and also swap out the > > 802.11 cards depending upon the site, i.e. some customers > > have 2.4Ghz g/n access points, where others may have 5Ghz > > n/ac access points so I want a platform that I can vary the > > 802.11 card to suit. > > > > The range to the access point from the station will be > > variable, but no more than about 100m. Line of sight may > > not be feasible. > > > > I have been pointed in the direction of the RB411 with an > > enclosure and suitable 8dbi antenna - any other takers? > > > > It also needs a Gig Ethernet port ;). > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ben Jackson > > eLogik > > m:0404 924745 > > e: ben@elogik.net > > w: www.elogik.com.au > > [image: http://www.elogik.com.au] > > <http://www.elogik.com.au> > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mi > > k rotik.com. > > au > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Public mailing list > > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mi > > k rotik.com. > > au > > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikr > otik > .com . > au > > _______________________________________________ > Public mailing list > Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au > http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikr > otik > .com . > au > _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mik rotik.com.au
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