-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 2:23 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Speaking of, has anyone purchased one of the SFP vdsl modules to see if

work in a 'Tik?

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 at 2:21 pm, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:

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Hi Denis,

I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;)

In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;)

Cheers, Mike.

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-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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Mike, I hope that rumour comes true, that would be awesome! Denis, it may be worth checking the Whirlpool page listing compliant modems. They include a field for whether Bridge mode is available, but it's not populated for all devices. http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/fttn_registered_modem_router Regards, Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 2:21 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL Hi Denis, I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;) In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;) Cheers, Mike.

-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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This is the forum discussion related to the SFP module: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=104109 I've used a Draytek Vigor 130 on my first FTTN customer, but would very much appreciate an alternative. I had all kinds of problems with the Vigor 120. Russell

-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 11:30 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

On 15/2/17 2:20 pm, Mike Everest wrote:

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Hi Denis,

I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;) Like one of these perhaps. It's going to be vectoring that's going to cause us issues I fear.

https://www.versatek.com/product/vx-160kit-vdsl2-sfp-modems-co-rt/

...

In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;)

Cheers, Mike.

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-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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Thanks all for the recommendations. On 15 February 2017 at 14:35, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:

That's the one I've been thinking of buying to test. Would save so much annoyance if it works in my CRS-109 :)

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 at 2:30 pm, Matt Perkins <matt@spectrum.com.au> wrote:

On 15/2/17 2:20 pm, Mike Everest wrote:

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Hi Denis,

I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;) Like one of these perhaps. It's going to be vectoring that's going to cause us issues I fear.

https://www.versatek.com/product/vx-160kit-vdsl2-sfp-modems-co-rt/

...

In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;)

Cheers, Mike.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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On 18/02/2017 9:08 AM, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) wrote:

Mike, that sounds great. Apparently my part of the world is definitely going to get FTTdp NBN in 2018 sometime. Will this module support pushing power out to the street modem in the pit out the front which FTTdp seems to require? As I understand the FTTdp system, there will be an injector meaning no need to have a special modem.

Mike

Just a heads up, I know of at least one of the vendors I was talking to who has now chosen to skip the VDSL2 SFP module in favour of a G.fast option (seeing as that seems to be the next big thing). I would expect that when G.fast becomes a bit more tried/tested/readily available we might see NBN moving to this too.. (oh and the G.fast gear supports vampiric power so is cheaper to install). For now my recommendation would be to find the cheapest VDSL2 bridging device you can find and install MikroTiks behind them - much like the old TP-Link 8840T for ADSL2! - Andrew On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Murray Southwell < Murray.Southwell@tasmanet.com.au> wrote:

I imagine FTTdp will have an inline power injector rather than powering straight from the modem?

Sent from my Huawei Mobile

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" To: MikroTik Australia Public List CC:

Mike, that sounds great. Apparently my part of the world is definitely going to get FTTdp NBN in 2018 sometime. Will this module support pushing power out to the street modem in the pit out the front which FTTdp seems to require?

On 15 February 2017 at 14:20, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:

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Hi Denis,

I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;)

In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;)

Cheers, Mike.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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NBN is already planning G.Fast, they will be installing 4 port hardened DSLAM's in pits and on poles which use reverse power from the CPE for FTTC installations as a minimum, so no cabling except the fibre into the pit and copper to the customer. I was speaking to the manufacturer the other day about some G.Fast DSLAM's that we are looking at, they are pretty awesome, problem is CPE options are next to zero at the moment for G.Fast, but slowly getting there apparently. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) Sent: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:09 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL I was speaking to someone on Friday in The Know who speculated G.fast and FTTdp might end up being supplied with an NBN wall mounted modem and ethernet interface, sounds like the same arrangement as FTTP and FW. Here's a G.fast SFP module reference design to get you all drooling. http://www.sckipio.com/first-gfast-sfp-design-announced/ On 19 February 2017 at 05:10, Andrew Cox <andrew.cox@brightwifi.com> wrote:

Just a heads up, I know of at least one of the vendors I was talking to who has now chosen to skip the VDSL2 SFP module in favour of a G.fast option (seeing as that seems to be the next big thing).

I would expect that when G.fast becomes a bit more tried/tested/readily available we might see NBN moving to this too.. (oh and the G.fast gear supports vampiric power so is cheaper to install).

For now my recommendation would be to find the cheapest VDSL2 bridging device you can find and install MikroTiks behind them - much like the old TP-Link 8840T for ADSL2!

- Andrew

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Murray Southwell < Murray.Southwell@tasmanet.com.au> wrote:

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I imagine FTTdp will have an inline power injector rather than powering straight from the modem?

Sent from my Huawei Mobile

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL From: "Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech)" To: MikroTik Australia Public List CC:

Mike, that sounds great. Apparently my part of the world is definitely going to get FTTdp NBN in 2018 sometime. Will this module support pushing power out to the street modem in the pit out the front which FTTdp seems to require?

On 15 February 2017 at 14:20, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:

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Hi Denis,

I'm happy to propagate a 'rumour' that there may be an SFP module become available sometime during 2017 that supports vDSL ;)

In the meantime, though, I'm sure others on this list will have a few suggestions (it's been asked at least once before - it may be worth checking the archives for prior suggestions, for comparison or aggregation with latest comments! ;)

Cheers, Mike.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Denis Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2017 1:58 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] NBN VDSL

Hi All

We're starting to see some NBN rollout to our customers. Preference is to have the Mikrotik do all the work, any recommendations for VDSL modems ?

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