-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:18 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] power routerboard and modem with one supply .. FTTN ordered today, so not much longer on ADSL. Hoping that fixes our constant dropouts!
It's still a dsl type tail though isn't it? Hope the copper is good! ;-) Just curious: what ISP did you order it from? Cheers!
Well yes, it's VDSL.. But it's dropping my line length from 3610m to 587m. Fingers crossed the bad section of copper is on the other side of the node ;) Used to be not *too* bad - which was why I bought the 8817, I didn't need to be able to adjust the noise margin. During the storms, when no-one had power, I was syncing at an amazing 14mbps! Then as power came back on, it dropped, and dropped, until it was back to the 'normal' 7mbps, but also dropping every 2 minutes. Which was when we popped an MF823 into the CRS109 as well, and ran OSPF over PPTP over both sessions back to the DC, with a 2-second keepalive timer on the ADSL session. Work well, but costs $40-50/month in traffic from all the little dropouts on the ADSL.. I ordered from Telstra. Had to go residential, as Business won't be doing FTTN until February. But residential are considering FTTN to be a 'Pilot' at the moment, so they're doing 3 months free - you just pay $20/month for the 'speed boost', if you don't want a 25mbps cap. By the time the free trial is done, I'm hoping business will be ready to go, and we'll just migrate across. Will be very interesting to see what the sync speed (and more importantly, stability) is like. On 6 October 2015 at 10:42, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:18 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] power routerboard and modem with one supply .. FTTN ordered today, so not much longer on ADSL. Hoping that fixes our constant dropouts!
It's still a dsl type tail though isn't it? Hope the copper is good! ;-)
Just curious: what ISP did you order it from?
Cheers!
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I thought they said that sync initially should be 12/1 because of interference and co-existing with ADSL? -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 9:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] fttn Well yes, it's VDSL.. But it's dropping my line length from 3610m to 587m. Fingers crossed the bad section of copper is on the other side of the node ;) Used to be not *too* bad - which was why I bought the 8817, I didn't need to be able to adjust the noise margin. During the storms, when no-one had power, I was syncing at an amazing 14mbps! Then as power came back on, it dropped, and dropped, until it was back to the 'normal' 7mbps, but also dropping every 2 minutes. Which was when we popped an MF823 into the CRS109 as well, and ran OSPF over PPTP over both sessions back to the DC, with a 2-second keepalive timer on the ADSL session. Work well, but costs $40-50/month in traffic from all the little dropouts on the ADSL.. I ordered from Telstra. Had to go residential, as Business won't be doing FTTN until February. But residential are considering FTTN to be a 'Pilot' at the moment, so they're doing 3 months free - you just pay $20/month for the 'speed boost', if you don't want a 25mbps cap. By the time the free trial is done, I'm hoping business will be ready to go, and we'll just migrate across. Will be very interesting to see what the sync speed (and more importantly, stability) is like. On 6 October 2015 at 10:42, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:18 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] power routerboard and modem with one supply .. FTTN ordered today, so not much longer on ADSL. Hoping that fixes our constant dropouts!
It's still a dsl type tail though isn't it? Hope the copper is good! ;-)
Just curious: what ISP did you order it from?
Cheers!
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Yeah that's what they'd told us as well. But it looks like that hasn't happened? I was also of the understanding that your phone would stay on copper during the migration phase, but no, they're migrating it to the FXS port on the supplied netgear modem/router. (Which will be interesting, as I have no intention of using their supplied netgear router - I want my public IP on my CRS :-p) On 6 October 2015 at 11:10, Tim Warnock <timoid@timoid.org> wrote:
I thought they said that sync initially should be 12/1 because of interference and co-existing with ADSL?
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 9:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] fttn
Well yes, it's VDSL.. But it's dropping my line length from 3610m to 587m. Fingers crossed the bad section of copper is on the other side of the node ;) Used to be not *too* bad - which was why I bought the 8817, I didn't need to be able to adjust the noise margin. During the storms, when no-one had power, I was syncing at an amazing 14mbps! Then as power came back on, it dropped, and dropped, until it was back to the 'normal' 7mbps, but also dropping every 2 minutes. Which was when we popped an MF823 into the CRS109 as well, and ran OSPF over PPTP over both sessions back to the DC, with a 2-second keepalive timer on the ADSL session. Work well, but costs $40-50/month in traffic from all the little dropouts on the ADSL..
I ordered from Telstra. Had to go residential, as Business won't be doing FTTN until February. But residential are considering FTTN to be a 'Pilot' at the moment, so they're doing 3 months free - you just pay $20/month for the 'speed boost', if you don't want a 25mbps cap. By the time the free trial is done, I'm hoping business will be ready to go, and we'll just migrate across.
Will be very interesting to see what the sync speed (and more importantly, stability) is like.
On 6 October 2015 at 10:42, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:18 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] power routerboard and modem with one supply .. FTTN ordered today, so not much longer on ADSL. Hoping that fixes our constant dropouts!
It's still a dsl type tail though isn't it? Hope the copper is good! ;-)
Just curious: what ISP did you order it from?
Cheers!
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-- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag@rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder
FWIW I got a fax machine going on the FXS port supplied by Optus on a wireless NBN system yesterday. Faxes transmit and receive with no problem using the Optus/NBN VoIP system. They must be using T.38 or it's a good g.711 link. On 6 October 2015 at 11:18, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Yeah that's what they'd told us as well. But it looks like that hasn't happened? I was also of the understanding that your phone would stay on copper during the migration phase, but no, they're migrating it to the FXS port on the supplied netgear modem/router. (Which will be interesting, as I have no intention of using their supplied netgear router - I want my public IP on my CRS :-p)
On 6 October 2015 at 11:10, Tim Warnock <timoid@timoid.org> wrote:
I thought they said that sync initially should be 12/1 because of interference and co-existing with ADSL?
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 9:53 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] fttn
Well yes, it's VDSL.. But it's dropping my line length from 3610m to 587m. Fingers crossed the bad section of copper is on the other side of the node ;) Used to be not *too* bad - which was why I bought the 8817, I didn't need to be able to adjust the noise margin. During the storms, when no-one had power, I was syncing at an amazing 14mbps! Then as power came back on, it dropped, and dropped, until it was back to the 'normal' 7mbps, but also dropping every 2 minutes. Which was when we popped an MF823 into the CRS109 as well, and ran OSPF over PPTP over both sessions back to the DC, with a 2-second keepalive timer on the ADSL session. Work well, but costs $40-50/month in traffic from all the little dropouts on the ADSL..
I ordered from Telstra. Had to go residential, as Business won't be doing FTTN until February. But residential are considering FTTN to be a 'Pilot' at the moment, so they're doing 3 months free - you just pay $20/month for the 'speed boost', if you don't want a 25mbps cap. By the time the free trial is done, I'm hoping business will be ready to go, and we'll just migrate across.
Will be very interesting to see what the sync speed (and more importantly, stability) is like.
On 6 October 2015 at 10:42, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:18 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] power routerboard and modem with one supply .. FTTN ordered today, so not much longer on ADSL. Hoping that fixes our constant dropouts!
It's still a dsl type tail though isn't it? Hope the copper is good! ;-)
Just curious: what ISP did you order it from?
Cheers!
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That depends on the ATA, if you can peak under the hood, check to see it it's running T.38 ... http://about.me/terry.sweetser On 06/10/15 11:48, Jason Hecker (Up & Running Tech) wrote:
FWIW I got a fax machine going on the FXS port supplied by Optus on a wireless NBN system yesterday. Faxes transmit and receive with no problem using the Optus/NBN VoIP system. They must be using T.38 or it's a good g.711 link.
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