PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Hi all, I am having a problem with the PS180C-R VDSL SFP pair. https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=489 I am having difficulty getting the modules to work in our unit complex alongside our NBN FTTN service. between units. When we connect the SFP modules between 2 units in our complex, (Using separate pairs of course) , our existing NBN VDSL drops. and the SFPs loose connection intermittently I suspect that the 10 pair cable coming into our unit is suffering crosstalk between pairs. Has anyone experienced this before at all? Thanks as always for any advice. Regards, *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
HI Mal! I have seen report of VDSL line sync drop from just touching the module with fingertips which implies that they are very susceptible to noise from background RF activity - I expect that ensuring good earth to the router casing (if it is a metal enclosure) or try making common earth to the SFP cages themselves of it's a plastic casing router. If it is indeed some crosstalk between the pairs in the same bundle, which is also quite likely, then there's probably not a great deal that can be done about it :( Hope you can find a way! Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Malcolm Faed Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 11:34 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Hi all,
I am having a problem with the PS180C-R VDSL SFP pair. https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=489
I am having difficulty getting the modules to work in our unit complex alongside our NBN FTTN service. between units.
When we connect the SFP modules between 2 units in our complex, (Using separate pairs of course) , our existing NBN VDSL drops. and the SFPs loose connection intermittently
I suspect that the 10 pair cable coming into our unit is suffering crosstalk between pairs.
Has anyone experienced this before at all?
Thanks as always for any advice.
Regards,
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747
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I have had no dramas with these for 2.5 years on a site linking 2 buildings plugged into RG260s. But, they are the only devices on the 10 pair cable so there is no other noise. It sounds like your VDSL signals are talking over each other and given the cable isn't twisted pair the cross talk will be horrendous. I wonder if each is cranking the power up to compensate which results in a shouting match... From what I understand VDSL out of a NBN cabinet has a function where it can cancel out and minimise crosstalk between cables emanating from it. As it has no control over your VDSL devices it's not going to work so well. Can you use a wireless link instead? Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 11:46, Mike Everest wrote:
HI Mal!
I have seen report of VDSL line sync drop from just touching the module with fingertips which implies that they are very susceptible to noise from background RF activity - I expect that ensuring good earth to the router casing (if it is a metal enclosure) or try making common earth to the SFP cages themselves of it's a plastic casing router.
If it is indeed some crosstalk between the pairs in the same bundle, which is also quite likely, then there's probably not a great deal that can be done about it :(
Hope you can find a way!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Malcolm Faed Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 11:34 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Hi all,
I am having a problem with the PS180C-R VDSL SFP pair. https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=489
I am having difficulty getting the modules to work in our unit complex alongside our NBN FTTN service. between units.
When we connect the SFP modules between 2 units in our complex, (Using separate pairs of course) , our existing NBN VDSL drops. and the SFPs loose connection intermittently
I suspect that the 10 pair cable coming into our unit is suffering crosstalk between pairs.
Has anyone experienced this before at all?
Thanks as always for any advice.
Regards,
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747
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Hi, You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a. If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps put in an attenuator at the CO end. Regards Roger From: "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com> To: "'MikroTik Australia Public List'" <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:46:11 +1000 Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services Send reply to: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] HI Mal! I have seen report of VDSL line sync drop from just touching the module with fingertips which implies that they are very susceptible to noise from background RF activity - I expect that ensuring good earth to the router casing (if it is a metal enclosure) or try making common earth to the SFP cages themselves of it's a plastic casing router. If it is indeed some crosstalk between the pairs in the same bundle, which is also quite likely, then there's probably not a great deal that can be done about it :( Hope you can find a way! Cheers, Mike. the taking they can be the author
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The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote:
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's. Kind regards Russell Hurren -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote:
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Oh really?! How does it work - over the network or some kind of SFP adapter for a computer? Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:27, Russell Hurren wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote:
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Oooh, do you have said tool?? I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :) On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren <russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Hi Damien, That said tool and guide is available here; https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?dl=0 I hope that helps! Regards, Alen -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services Oooh, do you have said tool?? I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :) On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren <russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?dl=0
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge! I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains. Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my breath. It is probably about 250m via the MDF. It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others. Regards, *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:32, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?dl=0
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would
to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Consider 60GHz - will probs be faster than vdsl anyhow :) https://shop.duxtel.com.au/products/RBLHGG-60adkit cheers! -----Original Message-----
From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Malcolm Faed Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 2:11 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge!
I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains.
Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my breath. It is probably about 250m via the MDF.
It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others.
Regards,
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:32, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzt a?d
l=0
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would
to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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I have these doing 500Mbit across 500m no worries. https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=30_45&products_id=505 Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 14:11, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge!
I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains.
Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my breath. It is probably about 250m via the MDF.
It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others.
Regards,
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:32, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?dl=0
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would
to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Thanks all for the advice. For fun we did try connecting with 10M Ethernet FD, and it actually worked, but still the FTTN NBN connection dropped. The switches SFP ports are earthed to the chassis. Has anyone had any experience with Multicast video over wireless? It is not preferred over wired, but if it works without corruption it could be an option. Cheers, *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:36, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
I have these doing 500Mbit across 500m no worries.
https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=30_45&products_id=505
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 14:11, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge!
I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains.
Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my breath. It is probably about 250m via the MDF.
It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others.
Regards,
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:32, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag@rendrag.net> wrote:
Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?dl=0
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
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Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:17 To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on the bands that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near the existing modem. Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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If all the devices in the path are set up properly with IGMP snooping it should only be sending one copy of a stream over the wireless link, (in theory... riiiight?) Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 10:03, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Thanks all for the advice.
For fun we did try connecting with 10M Ethernet FD, and it actually worked, but still the FTTN NBN connection dropped.
The switches SFP ports are earthed to the chassis.
Has anyone had any experience with Multicast video over wireless? It is not preferred over wired, but if it works without corruption it could be an option.
The Mikrotik has a multicast helper on its wifi. If you set it to full, the AP will send the multicast individually to all connected stations using their unicast mac address (but at high speed) In this case I would assume 1 station. Not quite sure how this works if you bridge the Station, and have lots of wired clients attached. Regards Roger From: Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au> Date sent: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:03:27 +1000 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services Send reply to: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Thanks all for the advice. For fun we did try connecting with 10M Ethernet FD, and it actually worked, but still the FTTN NBN connection dropped. The switches SFP ports are earthed to the chassis. Has anyone had any experience with Multicast video over wireless? It is not preferred over wired, but if it works without corruption it could be an option. Cheers, *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:36, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
I have these doing 500Mbit across 500m no worries.
https://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=30_45&products_id=50 5
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 14:11, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge!
I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains.
Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my
It
is probably about 250m via the MDF.
It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others.
Regards,
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747
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wrote:
Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
I hope that helps!
Regards,
Alen
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Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2020 1:01 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services
Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
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The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote:
Hi,
You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on
bands
that the other modem right nearby is listening for
Perhaps Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tn7xnuxesa34q2w/AACb84aNjye9we4jBPPoQkzta?d l=0 the the
existing
modem.
Make sure the PS180C-R is using profile 17a.
If the distance between the 2 PS180C-R modules is very short, perhaps put in an attenuator at the CO end.
Regards Roger
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Hi all, Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful. We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up. Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using the SFPs. *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 10:52, Roger Plant <rplant@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
The Mikrotik has a multicast helper on its wifi.
If you set it to full, the AP will send the multicast individually to all connected stations using their unicast mac address (but at high speed)
In this case I would assume 1 station.
Not quite sure how this works if you bridge the Station, and have lots of wired clients attached.
Regards Roger
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Thanks all for the advice.
For fun we did try connecting with 10M Ethernet FD, and it actually worked, but still the FTTN NBN connection dropped.
The switches SFP ports are earthed to the chassis.
Has anyone had any experience with Multicast video over wireless? It is not preferred over wired, but if it works without corruption it could be an option.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:36, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
I have these doing 500Mbit across 500m no worries.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 14:11, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Thanks all for the suggestions. What a wealth of knowledge!
I confirm the SFP port is earthed via the switch to the mains.
Might see if 10M half duplex ethernet works. :) I won't hold my
It
is probably about 250m via the MDF.
It is LOS across a few stretches of tin roof so maybe we can do wireless. Does anyone recommend any products in particular? I am obviously more familiar with MT, but can look at others.
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Ohhhh, thankyou!! :D
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 13:25, <alen@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Damien,
That said tool and guide is available here;
I hope that helps!
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Alen
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Oooh, do you have said tool??
I've read about folks getting a copy of it initially, but noone has mentioned being able to source a copy for at least two years.. I would LOVE to get a hold of it and see what raw packets they're sending to the SFP to try and build a little linux utility to interface to MRTG :)
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28, Russell Hurren < russell@zeropointnetworks.com> wrote:
Proscend have a tool you can use to view the signal strength etc if you contact them. They might even have newer firmware you can try. I can't remember if it lets you make any changes, but I used it to determine that the Draytek Vigor 130 was about 10% faster on a 100/40 NBN connection so I didn't keep using the Proscend CPE's.
Kind regards
Russell Hurren
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The trouble is there is no way to monitor or change any settings on the Proscend modules. They are really plug and pray.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, at 12:13, Roger Plant wrote: > Hi, > > You are possibly attempting to send very loud signals on
bands
> that the other modem right nearby is listening for > > Perhaps > Make sure the CPE end of the PS180C-R is the end near
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Just for laughs did you try 100Mbit full or half duplex? Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 12:51, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Hi all,
Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful.
We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up.
Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using the SFPs.
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
Yes, Failed. :) *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 12:58, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Just for laughs did you try 100Mbit full or half duplex?
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 12:51, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Hi all,
Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful.
We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up.
Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using the SFPs.
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.... As soon as we started moving any volume of traffic across the 10Mbps link, the NBN VDSL died again. Thanks all for your kind advice. *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 13:11, Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au> wrote:
Yes, Failed.
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 12:58, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Just for laughs did you try 100Mbit full or half duplex?
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 12:51, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Hi all,
Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful.
We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up.
Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using the SFPs.
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
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Yes, Failed.
:) *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 12:58, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Just for laughs did you try 100Mbit full or half duplex?
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 12:51, Malcolm Faed wrote:
Hi all,
Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful.
We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up.
Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using
Hi, A couple or 3 thoughts. Have you triple checked (again) that you don't have a split pair somewhere between the 2 ends of your link. and end near the NBN modem. Have you tried swapping ends with the SFP modules. If you are in Melbourne (and you can figure a way of getting them to you) I have a Planet vc231G VDSL2 bridge, and a draytek VDSL2 modem 2760VN that seems to work well with the vc231G bridge. I think (but don't know) that these should be somewhat compatible operating near an NBN connection The draytek modem/router has the recommended NBN firmware on it. The vc231G does g.vector, and g.inp which NBN wants/uses. My guess is the vc231g spec is likely very similar to the Proscend unit, (but could be completely wrong) You could perhaps loan these, and see if things are different/better/worse... Regards Roger From: Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au> Date sent: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:56:28 +1000 To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] PS180C-R VDSL SFP in multi-pair cable with other services Send reply to: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] .... As soon as we started moving any volume of traffic across the 10Mbps link, the NBN VDSL died again. Thanks all for your kind advice. *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 13:11, Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au> wrote: the prohibited. they the SFPs.
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Thanks for the kind offer. I will keep this idea in mind. We have decided to put fiber across a catenary between buildings. For my own curiosity, I will find some 10 pair to pull apart to see how to identify how the whites pair with the coloured conductors. Regards, Mal *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer *Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747 [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite> <https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8ZtcnwoTH7e54LAndE-yw>[image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/6583589/> This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorised disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Av-Comm is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 13:53, Roger Plant <rplant@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
Hi,
A couple or 3 thoughts.
Have you triple checked (again) that you don't have a split pair somewhere between the 2 ends of your link. and end near the NBN modem.
Have you tried swapping ends with the SFP modules.
If you are in Melbourne (and you can figure a way of getting them to you)
I have a Planet vc231G VDSL2 bridge, and a draytek VDSL2 modem 2760VN that seems to work well with the vc231G bridge. I think (but don't know) that these should be somewhat compatible operating near an NBN connection The draytek modem/router has the recommended NBN firmware on it.
The vc231G does g.vector, and g.inp which NBN wants/uses. My guess is the vc231g spec is likely very similar to the Proscend unit, (but could be completely wrong)
You could perhaps loan these, and see if things are different/better/worse...
Regards Roger
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....
As soon as we started moving any volume of traffic across the 10Mbps link, the NBN VDSL died again.
Thanks all for your kind advice.
*Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm* avcomm.com.au malcolm@avcomm.com.au 24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia P: +61 (2) 9939 4377 M: +61 409 601 747
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 13:11, Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au> wrote:
Yes, Failed.
:) *Malcolm Faed.* Broadcast Network Engineer
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 12:58, Jason Hecker <jason@upandrunningtech.com.au> wrote:
Just for laughs did you try 100Mbit full or half duplex?
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
Hi all,
Some progress in the saga in case anyone finds this useful.
We earthed all the unused pairs in the 10 pair cable and established a 10Mbps FD link, and the NBN stayed up.
Unfortunately with this configuration, the NBN died when using
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, at 12:51, Malcolm Faed wrote: the SFPs.
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I'll add in the motel complex I set up the Proscend VDSL pair on, a bunch of the rooms have Cat3 (nice!) and a bunch have Cat2. I was able to get 100Mbit ethernet working on the Cat2 cables using 2 pairs as each room has several pairs for some reason. I did a bunch of testing first and all 6 rooms connect back to RG260's on Cat2 with no errors at 100Mbit. Maybe you can get away with it too. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
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