Lads, Any Mikrotik device suggestions for a device we can set on a wall that’ll service WiFi clients about 40 metres away in one direction. A P2P link with a station in the middle of the serviceable area isn't an option currently, I know would be better solution. Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you received this email in error please notify Sentrian Pty Ltd immediately by return email to the sender and delete the original email. We do not guarantee that this email or any attached files are free of viruses. All recipients should undertake their own virus scanning.
I've got several of ->http://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=257 They are pretty punchy and I'd say a 30 meter radius with a wall between when mounted on the ceiling is there limit. I have both the 2.4 & 5GHz enabled options. However I think 40 Meters through a wall is a stretch for these units especially from the Client TX RSL levels back to the AP. Maybe you should look at a ~10-12dB panel antenna(single chain) in the general direction of your victims/clients & bolted onto a Mikrotik Metal of your choice(select your band!!).. If your after a single MT device and your clients are on 5GHz maybe a mANTBOx-15S that has some gain in the general direction of your clients will cut it.. "As evil as this sounds" : Can you have another AP set as "Repeater mode" where your clients are.. ? Cheers Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikroTik Australia Public List" To:"MikroTik Australia Public List" Cc: Sent:Fri, 23 Dec 2016 01:41:51 +0000 Subject:[MT-AU Public] Wireless at a Distance Lads, Any Mikrotik device suggestions for a device we can set on a wall that’ll service WiFi clients about 40 metres away in one direction. A P2P link with a station in the middle of the serviceable area isn't an option currently, I know would be better solution. Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you received this email in error please notify Sentrian Pty Ltd immediately by return email to the sender and delete the original email. We do not guarantee that this email or any attached files are free of viruses. All recipients should undertake their own virus scanning. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Thanks mate, a repeater would be ideal but there is no power or comms on the spot where clients will be ☹ Might have a look at the mANTBOX - Victims is the perfect term here haha Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Greg McLennan Sent: Friday, 23 December 2016 12:27 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Wireless at a Distance I've got several of ->http://shop.duxtel.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=257 They are pretty punchy and I'd say a 30 meter radius with a wall between when mounted on the ceiling is there limit. I have both the 2.4 & 5GHz enabled options. However I think 40 Meters through a wall is a stretch for these units especially from the Client TX RSL levels back to the AP. Maybe you should look at a ~10-12dB panel antenna(single chain) in the general direction of your victims/clients & bolted onto a Mikrotik Metal of your choice(select your band!!).. If your after a single MT device and your clients are on 5GHz maybe a mANTBOx-15S that has some gain in the general direction of your clients will cut it.. "As evil as this sounds" : Can you have another AP set as "Repeater mode" where your clients are.. ? Cheers Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikroTik Australia Public List" To:"MikroTik Australia Public List" Cc: Sent:Fri, 23 Dec 2016 01:41:51 +0000 Subject:[MT-AU Public] Wireless at a Distance Lads, Any Mikrotik device suggestions for a device we can set on a wall that’ll service WiFi clients about 40 metres away in one direction. A P2P link with a station in the middle of the serviceable area isn't an option currently, I know would be better solution. Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you received this email in error please notify Sentrian Pty Ltd immediately by return email to the sender and delete the original email. We do not guarantee that this email or any attached files are free of viruses. All recipients should undertake their own virus scanning. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list mailto:Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list mailto:Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ________________________________________
On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 02:31 +0000, Dave Browning wrote:
Thanks mate, a repeater would be ideal but there is no power or comms on the spot where clients will be ☹
If your device can be powered via USB (or you are OK with making a special cable to do so) grab a "power pack" of suitable capacity. These are designed for recharging phones and tablets, but they are great temporary power sources; they are basically a USB port (or several) running off a lithium ion battery. They will give you three or four years if treated well. A good-quality one - high capacity of course - should run a small wifi for a day or two at least. Get two; one charges while the other runs, and make it someone's job to swap them every day or two. We've run temporary meshes on these, works well. We gaffa'ed or cable-tied them to or near the routers; for a more professional look you'll want to make a box or mount of some sort. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer@nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB
As cowboy as that sounds, it would work mint :P Dave Browning | Network Engineer P 07 3369 7666 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Karl Auer Sent: Friday, 23 December 2016 3:42 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Wireless at a Distance On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 02:31 +0000, Dave Browning wrote:
Thanks mate, a repeater would be ideal but there is no power or comms on the spot where clients will be ☹
If your device can be powered via USB (or you are OK with making a special cable to do so) grab a "power pack" of suitable capacity. These are designed for recharging phones and tablets, but they are great temporary power sources; they are basically a USB port (or several) running off a lithium ion battery. They will give you three or four years if treated well. A good-quality one - high capacity of course - should run a small wifi for a day or two at least. Get two; one charges while the other runs, and make it someone's job to swap them every day or two. We've run temporary meshes on these, works well. We gaffa'ed or cable-tied them to or near the routers; for a more professional look you'll want to make a box or mount of some sort. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (mailto:kauer@nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB _______________________________________________ Public mailing list mailto:Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au ________________________________________
On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 06:51 +0000, Dave Browning wrote:
As cowboy as that sounds, it would work mint :P
It may sound "cowboy", but it's not. It's a good engineering solution to the problem as given, using off-the-shelf components (and possibly a custom cable if you cannot choose a USB-powered router). Our use case involved only a few days of service, so we used gaffer tape and cable-ties. A more permanent solution would warrant a nicer mount. You could probably get a nice off-the-shelf enclosure. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer@nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160 GPG fingerprint: 6D59 8AE6 810D 44E3 7626 7040 4DD6 F89F 3053 4774 Old fingerprint: 9DCA 0903 BCBD 0647 BCCC 2FA7 A35C 57A1 ACF9 00BB
Cowboy's a great description - if you're talking the right kind of cowboys - the ones that get the job done regardless of the situation. :) If not a USB power pack, you could probably disconnect the warning buzzer on a commodity UPS and that'd do the job, if you had space. The constraints are a bit vague so it's hard to be more specific :) James On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, at 19:50, Karl Auer wrote:
On Fri, 2016-12-23 at 06:51 +0000, Dave Browning wrote:
As cowboy as that sounds, it would work mint :P
It may sound "cowboy", but it's not. It's a good engineering solution to the problem as given, using off-the-shelf components (and possibly a custom cable if you cannot choose a USB-powered router).
Our use case involved only a few days of service, so we used gaffer tape and cable-ties. A more permanent solution would warrant a nicer mount. You could probably get a nice off-the-shelf enclosure.
Regards, K.
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer@nullarbor.com.au) work +61 2 64957435 http://www.nullarbor.com.au mobile +61 428 957160
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