Hi Mikrotikians, Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic? How did go? Or not go? -- http://about.me/terry.sweetser
Hi Terry! I don't have any of my own with that kind of load, but from reports received from some who do, I expect that it should work just fine. The main difficulties with CCR comes from when there are more than one full table, and especially when there are many updates. It will always take a couple of minutes to populate the table on first boot, but after that when there is just one upstream peer, the routing table should be relatively stable. I suspect others will attest or challenge that assessment! :-D Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) Sent: Friday, 21 August 2015 12:39 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: [MT-AU Public] BGP TABLES
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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I used to run two full ipv4 + ipv6 tables on a ccr1009. The first pair loaded in about a minute. The second pair took ~6 minutes. The traffic wasn't really an issue at all (I could saturate my 2gbps upstream with three tcp streams) - it was purely the fact that the individual CCR cores aren't really very powerful, and the routing on RouterOS is single-threaded, so losing one BGP upstream meant you were most likely offline for 5-6 minutes while it processed the routing updates to fail over to another upstream. I now run RouterOS in VM's on 2.5GHz L5420's, with two cores allocated per VM (basically one for routing, one for handling packets) and each runs a full feed to it's upstream, plus full iBGP feeds to each of three other VM's. And they will process a full v4+v6 feed fail or recover in about 40 seconds. When routing goes multithreaded, I'll go back to three CCR1009's, but until them I'm sticking with VM's in two separate Citrix clusters. On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops. The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though. - Andrew On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes. T On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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I would think not! :-D Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;) Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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I reallly hope it does :) It's an AWESOME OS other than that one issue! Although with the amount of CCR1036's a colleague has had die in the last couple of months, I'd probably use an 09 or 72 in production over a 36, as they're dropping like flies ;) On 21 August 2015 at 13:04, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
I would think not! :-D
Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;)
Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
-- http://about.me/terry.sweetser
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I reallly hope it does :) It's an AWESOME OS other than that one issue!
Although with the amount of CCR1036's a colleague has had die in the last couple of months, I'd probably use an 09 or 72 in production over a 36, as they're dropping like flies ;)
On 21 August 2015 at 13:04, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
I would think not! :-D
Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;)
Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
-- http://about.me/terry.sweetser
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:-o What are the problems with the 1036s? Is it power supply, or something else? We haven't seen a lot of them come back since a hardware revision last year sometime. We did get a few come back, but they seem to have been quite reliable since then... Maybe your colleague lucked out to get them all out of the same early batch :( Cheers! Mike. thunder.
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I'm not sure, I've just seen a lot of despairing facebook posts at 1am over and over because a 1036 in yet another DC has died on him :) They'd all be over a year old, so were probably the same early batch :) On 21 August 2015 at 13:13, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
:-o
What are the problems with the 1036s? Is it power supply, or something else? We haven't seen a lot of them come back since a hardware revision last year sometime. We did get a few come back, but they seem to have been quite reliable since then...
Maybe your colleague lucked out to get them all out of the same early batch :(
Cheers!
Mike.
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I reallly hope it does :) It's an AWESOME OS other than that one issue!
Although with the amount of CCR1036's a colleague has had die in the last couple of months, I'd probably use an 09 or 72 in production over a 36, as they're dropping like flies ;)
On 21 August 2015 at 13:04, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
I would think not! :-D
Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;)
Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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Can you tell us about OSv7 dates Mike. Are we talking this year or next ? Matt. On 21/08/2015 1:04 PM, Mike Everest wrote:
I would think not! :-D
Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;)
Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
-- http://about.me/terry.sweetser
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Hi! Although there is never any /official/ (or even unofficial) release date offered, there is some reason to think it might be 'close'. Nonetheless, I don't expect to see it released this calendar year. There is a beta testing program that can give you access to 'preview' releases for testing - if you're interested to participate, contact support@mikrotik.com to ask about it! :) Cheers! Mike.
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Can you tell us about OSv7 dates Mike. Are we talking this year or next ?
Matt.
On 21/08/2015 1:04 PM, Mike Everest wrote:
I would think not! :-D
Let's hope things improve with routerOSv7 ;)
Cheers!
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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Hello, The bgp query functionality (ie sh ip bgp xxx equivalents) are also non-existent or very slow. I would not do it either. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:24 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] BGP TABLES That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes. T On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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Actually yeah that is my biggest grumble outside of route change speed - if you know the EXACT prefix you want to see the route information for, it's fine. but try and search? And you'll probably sit there for 10 minutes, then have it return with no result. I have a quagga box that takes a full feed from each of my edge routers, purely so I can lookup routes :) On 21 August 2015 at 13:16, Stavros Patiniotis <stavros@staff.esc.net.au> wrote:
Hello,
The bgp query functionality (ie sh ip bgp xxx equivalents) are also non-existent or very slow.
I would not do it either.
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That's the shop stopper then -- can't afford to have my transit edge moribund for up to 6 minutes.
T
On 21/08/15 12:45, Andrew Cox wrote:
At the moment the BGP service is still only handled by a single core so the convergence time takes a while. This is supposed to be addressed in v7 when it drops.
The 1Gbps of traffic shouldn't be a problem for a CCR1036 though.
- Andrew
On 21 August 2015 at 12:39, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh) < terry+mikrotik@skymesh.net.au> wrote:
Hi Mikrotikians,
Any one recently tried BGP with a full table on a CCR 36 core with 1+ Gbps of traffic?
How did go? Or not go?
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