Re: [MT-AU Public] Public Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3

11 Jan 2021

      Hi Malcolm, it's been a very long time since I used any fortiwifi kit, because my experience was so bad...

I like the fortigate firewalls, but can't recommend their other stuff.

Also the 30 series will be the bottom of the range. I for testing / learning, but I would never attempt to use a 30 series in production. 

Learnt that the hard way.

In my experience you're generally better off going a model "up" if you want to use the full utm. Utm is both memory and cpu intensive.

Regards,

Chris
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:14:41 +1100
From: Malcolm Faed <malcolm@avcomm.com.au>
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Hi all,
Thanks Mike,
Yes that helps. I was asked to see if we could use a MT solution to go up
against a FortiWiFi 30E
It seems the Axiom Cyber Shield would go some way toward meeting the
functionality of the Fortigate.
Cheers,
*Malcolm Faed.*
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 at 13:56, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Mal and all,
We did run an evaluation subscription for a while, and can confirm that it
certainly 'works as advertised' but in the end we found that the reporting
data (at the time valuated) was rudimentary at best and we thought it was
difficult to find the value in a USD300/year subscription cost per router.
The analytics essentially came down to "we detected 'x' packets of type 'y'
during the Last month".  We didn't detect any noticeable change in network
or generic attack activity while running it, but it could easily depend on
the type of network node and profile of the operator...
It's not something that I would recommend that /everyone/ needs to sign up
to for every router they manage, but it is definitely a reasonable option
for those who are actively seeking that kind of service :)
Does it help?
Cheers,  Mike.
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From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2021 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
Hi Philip and Mike,
Two and a half years later.....
Did you end up running it?
I am interested in it and wondering if it has been worthwhile.
If you subscribed to the analytics, do you find it useful?
Cheers,
Mal
*Malcolm Faed.*
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 at 16:15, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
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G'day!
We've been running it on one of our development routers for a couple
of weeks, still getting to know the system and how it all works, but
looking very good so far! :)
(we are considering becoming their premier partner for Australia ;)
Cheers!
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Subject: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
Hi all,
After seeing their presentation at the Melbourne MUM, we've been
having a look at Axiom Cyber Shield. Is anyone on here using it and
happy to
provide
some feedback, on-list or off-list? It certainly sounds like a good
product, but I
only seem to be able to find sales pitch information, not unbiased
reviews.
Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet
40-50 Innovation Drive, Dowsing Point, Tas 7010, Australia
P: 1300 792 711
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:25:58 +1100
From: "Mike Everest" <mike@duxtel.com>
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Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
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Hi Mal,
You'd probably also need to add a dns based web filter for a closer match to
Fortiguard functionality.
Cheers!
Mike.
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Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
Hi all,
Thanks Mike,
Yes that helps. I was asked to see if we could use a MT solution to go up
against a FortiWiFi 30E
It seems the Axiom Cyber Shield would go some way toward meeting the
functionality of the Fortigate.
Cheers,
*Malcolm Faed.*
Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm*
avcomm.com.au
malcolm@avcomm.com.au
24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia
P: +61 (2) 9939 4377
M: +61 409 601 747
[image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/AvCommSatellite>
<https://plus.google.com/+AvcommAustralia/>[image: Youtube]
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 at 13:56, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
Hi Mal and all,
We did run an evaluation subscription for a while, and can confirm
that it certainly 'works as advertised' but in the end we found that
the reporting data (at the time valuated) was rudimentary at best and
we thought it was difficult to find the value in a USD300/year
subscription
cost per router.
The analytics essentially came down to "we detected 'x' packets of type
'y'
during the Last month".  We didn't detect any noticeable change in
network or generic attack activity while running it, but it could
easily depend on the type of network node and profile of the operator...
It's not something that I would recommend that /everyone/ needs to
sign up to for every router they manage, but it is definitely a
reasonable option for those who are actively seeking that kind of
service :)
Does it help?
Cheers,  Mike.
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-----Original Message-----
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Of Malcolm Faed
Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2021 2:31 PM
To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au>
Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
Hi Philip and Mike,
Two and a half years later.....
Did you end up running it?
I am interested in it and wondering if it has been worthwhile.
If you subscribed to the analytics, do you find it useful?
Cheers,
Mal
*Malcolm Faed.*
Broadcast Network Engineer
*Av-Comm*
avcomm.com.au
malcolm@avcomm.com.au
24/9 Powells Road, Brookvale, NSW 2100, Australia
P: +61 (2) 9939 4377
M: +61 409 601 747
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 at 16:15, Mike Everest <mike@duxtel.com> wrote:
...
G'day!
We've been running it on one of our development routers for a
couple of weeks, still getting to know the system and how it all
works, but looking very good so far! :)
(we are considering becoming their premier partner for Australia
;)
Cheers!
...
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From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On
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Loenneker
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2018 2:21 PM
To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au>
Subject: [MT-AU Public] Axiom Cyber Shield
Hi all,
After seeing their presentation at the Melbourne MUM, we've been
having a look at Axiom Cyber Shield. Is anyone on here using it
and happy to
provide
some feedback, on-list or off-list? It certainly sounds like a
good
product, but I
only seem to be able to find sales pitch information, not
unbiased
reviews.
Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet
40-50 Innovation Drive, Dowsing Point, Tas 7010, Australia
P: 1300 792 711
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