Hey Guys, I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart. Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC. There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse). If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC? Thanks Tim
They are great units. I use them primarily in CAPSMAN systems - the largest site with 17. The latest stable and long term software seems to have ironed out all the kinks (or "instabilities" as Mikrotik like to call them) and they work really well - I have no qualms using them in plain old wireless and CAP mode. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 08:46, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart.
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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I've got an aging Ruckus unit at home that is also starting to fail and have been considering much the same as Tim The other option I've had in mind would be the wAP ac - on paper they look reasonably similar for this use-case - is there anything particularly different about them that would make one better than the other for a standard home scenario? -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 8:53 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC They are great units. I use them primarily in CAPSMAN systems - the largest site with 17. The latest stable and long term software seems to have ironed out all the kinks (or "instabilities" as Mikrotik like to call them) and they work really well - I have no qualms using them in plain old wireless and CAP mode. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 08:46, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart.
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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WAPAC: - Single core CPU and an older design. - Outdoor rated. - One Ethernet port. - 3x 5GHz chains, 2x 2.4GHz chains (so far I have only seen a Macbook Pro with 3x chains, most other 5GHz client devices are 2x or 1x) - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. (I had some keep overheating and locking up with 802.11at so ran them at 24V instead - something the CRS328-withPoE switch can easily accommodate.) CAPAC: - Quad core core CPU - better throughput especially using CAPSMAN non local forwarded mode. - Indoor rated. - Two Ethernet ports with 24V PoE passthrough. - 2x 5GHz Chain, 2x 2.4GHz chains - Supplied with a round and square case (an annoying waste of plastic really). - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. - Cheaper. Don't forget the newer RBwAPGR-5HacD2HnD which is similar to a CAPAC in an outdoor WAPAC case plus the option to fit a mini-PCIe LTE module) though it only has one ethernet port. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 09:20, Thomas Jackson wrote:
I've got an aging Ruckus unit at home that is also starting to fail and have been considering much the same as Tim
The other option I've had in mind would be the wAP ac - on paper they look reasonably similar for this use-case - is there anything particularly different about them that would make one better than the other for a standard home scenario?
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 8:53 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC
They are great units. I use them primarily in CAPSMAN systems - the largest site with 17. The latest stable and long term software seems to have ironed out all the kinks (or "instabilities" as Mikrotik like to call them) and they work really well - I have no qualms using them in plain old wireless and CAP mode.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 08:46, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart.
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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Thanks Jason, appreciate the detailed feedback - on the balance the cAP AC is probably the better option here - although the 3x 5GHz chains is a nice to have too! -----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 9:38 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC WAPAC: - Single core CPU and an older design. - Outdoor rated. - One Ethernet port. - 3x 5GHz chains, 2x 2.4GHz chains (so far I have only seen a Macbook Pro with 3x chains, most other 5GHz client devices are 2x or 1x) - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. (I had some keep overheating and locking up with 802.11at so ran them at 24V instead - something the CRS328-withPoE switch can easily accommodate.) CAPAC: - Quad core core CPU - better throughput especially using CAPSMAN non local forwarded mode. - Indoor rated. - Two Ethernet ports with 24V PoE passthrough. - 2x 5GHz Chain, 2x 2.4GHz chains - Supplied with a round and square case (an annoying waste of plastic really). - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. - Cheaper. Don't forget the newer RBwAPGR-5HacD2HnD which is similar to a CAPAC in an outdoor WAPAC case plus the option to fit a mini-PCIe LTE module) though it only has one ethernet port. Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 09:20, Thomas Jackson wrote:
I've got an aging Ruckus unit at home that is also starting to fail and have been considering much the same as Tim
The other option I've had in mind would be the wAP ac - on paper they look reasonably similar for this use-case - is there anything particularly different about them that would make one better than the other for a standard home scenario?
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 8:53 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC
They are great units. I use them primarily in CAPSMAN systems - the largest site with 17. The latest stable and long term software seems to have ironed out all the kinks (or "instabilities" as Mikrotik like to call them) and they work really well - I have no qualms using them in plain old wireless and CAP mode.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 08:46, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart.
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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+1 - I also appreciates the info. I'll grab a cAP AC, see how it goes.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Thomas Jackson Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:31 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC
Thanks Jason, appreciate the detailed feedback - on the balance the cAP AC is probably the better option here - although the 3x 5GHz chains is a nice to have too!
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 9:38 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC
WAPAC: - Single core CPU and an older design. - Outdoor rated. - One Ethernet port. - 3x 5GHz chains, 2x 2.4GHz chains (so far I have only seen a Macbook Pro with 3x chains, most other 5GHz client devices are 2x or 1x) - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. (I had some keep overheating and locking up with 802.11at so ran them at 24V instead - something the CRS328-withPoE switch can easily accommodate.)
CAPAC: - Quad core core CPU - better throughput especially using CAPSMAN non local forwarded mode. - Indoor rated. - Two Ethernet ports with 24V PoE passthrough. - 2x 5GHz Chain, 2x 2.4GHz chains - Supplied with a round and square case (an annoying waste of plastic really). - Can be powered by 802.3at/af or 24V PoE. - Cheaper.
Don't forget the newer RBwAPGR-5HacD2HnD which is similar to a CAPAC in an outdoor WAPAC case plus the option to fit a mini-PCIe LTE module) though it only has one ethernet port.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
I've got an aging Ruckus unit at home that is also starting to fail and have been considering much the same as Tim
The other option I've had in mind would be the wAP ac - on paper they look reasonably similar for this use-case - is there anything particularly different about them that would make one better than the other for a standard home scenario?
-----Original Message----- From: Public <public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au> On Behalf Of Jason Hecker Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 8:53 AM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] cAP AC
They are great units. I use them primarily in CAPSMAN systems - the largest site with 17. The latest stable and long term software seems to have ironed out all the kinks (or "instabilities" as Mikrotik like to call them) and they work really well - I have no qualms using them in plain old wireless and CAP mode.
Regards, Jason Hecker <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/> <https://www.upandrunningtech.com.au/>
On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 08:46, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC
On Tue, 19 May 2020, at 09:20, Thomas Jackson wrote: power and is literally falling apart. per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird
incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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I run a site that has about 30 MT access points, 10 of which are cAP AC(slowly transitioning older MT APs to cAP AC's) and using MT's capsman to manage all the AP's ( only run G/N mode on 2.4 and N/AC on 5GHz). I've run them since they were a new model(they did have some IPQ chipset issues in the early days that a RoS update eventually sorted). The default metal mounts could use some re-think I think, but nothing that overly painful. Overall they have been a stable unit and perform well for general area coverage. I haven't had any client compatibility issues either. Cheers Greg On 19/05/2020 8:46 am, Tim Warnock wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have a single out-of-support UBNT AC AP at home that uses a ton of power and is literally falling apart.
Looking at either going a newer UBNT or maybe a cAP AC.
There's a couple of things the UBNT boxes do that I don't like (single MAC per registration is one and the controller software is both a blessing and a curse).
If you had a choice, what would you choose? Any odd behaviour or weird incompatibilities with the cAP AC?
Thanks Tim
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