Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A
Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(. Any idea of the costing of the CHR ? A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding? From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(. Any idea of the costing of the CHR ? A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
No mention of Netfront/XEN :( Matt On 25/08/2015 9:39 AM, Dave Browning wrote:
Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding?
From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(.
Any idea of the costing of the CHR ?
A
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds...
The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M.
Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low
Hi
Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531
but the key think I wanted to point out was
*) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks
Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this.
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It already supports Xen though - just use virtio drivers :) protip if you're running XenServer so need some hackery for virtio support: cat /usr/lib64/xen/bin/qemu-dm #!/bin/bash oldstring=$@ newstring=$oldstring if [ `echo $oldstring | grep "c6:86:8a:96:9d:db\|0a:7e:be:4a:f3:34\|d2:c8:8d:6c:71:c3\|3a:74:3b:9c:26:5e" | wc -l` -gt 0 ]; then newstring=${oldstring//rtl8139/virtio} fi exec /usr/lib64/xen/bin/qemu-dm.orig $newstring Just move original qemu-dm to qemu-dm.orig and then list one mac from each 'tik VM in the grep string :) Could go further and xe vm-param-list on the VM to see if the description or something contains Mikrotik or RouterOS or somesuch, but this works well for my static setup :) On 25 August 2015 at 09:41, Matt Perkins <matt@spectrum.com.au> wrote:
No mention of Netfront/XEN :(
Matt
On 25/08/2015 9:39 AM, Dave Browning wrote:
Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding?
From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(.
Any idea of the costing of the CHR ?
A
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds...
The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M.
Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low
Hi
Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531
but the key think I wanted to point out was
*) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks
Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this.
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I had all sorts of hassle with a method similar to the bellow. Did get it working in the end but speed was poor. <100 M/bit . I have found best results with ioemu and E1000's speeds >650M/bit seem ok. Working on production in a few places with no hickup's. Netfront would be more ideal. Matt On 25/08/2015 9:45 AM, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
It already supports Xen though - just use virtio drivers :)
protip if you're running XenServer so need some hackery for virtio support:
cat /usr/lib64/xen/bin/qemu-dm #!/bin/bash oldstring=$@ newstring=$oldstring if [ `echo $oldstring | grep "c6:86:8a:96:9d:db\|0a:7e:be:4a:f3:34\|d2:c8:8d:6c:71:c3\|3a:74:3b:9c:26:5e" | wc -l` -gt 0 ]; then newstring=${oldstring//rtl8139/virtio} fi exec /usr/lib64/xen/bin/qemu-dm.orig $newstring
Just move original qemu-dm to qemu-dm.orig and then list one mac from each 'tik VM in the grep string :) Could go further and xe vm-param-list on the VM to see if the description or something contains Mikrotik or RouterOS or somesuch, but this works well for my static setup :)
On 25 August 2015 at 09:41, Matt Perkins <matt@spectrum.com.au> wrote:
No mention of Netfront/XEN :(
Matt
On 25/08/2015 9:39 AM, Dave Browning wrote:
Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding?
From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(.
Any idea of the costing of the CHR ?
A
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds...
The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M.
Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low
Hi
Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531
but the key think I wanted to point out was
*) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks
Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this.
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RouterOS As A Service - into the NFVspace. The licencing model will be different. It looks to be a pay as you go model - bandwidth and memory etc etc (with hints of an outright own being available). I'm hoping at some point we'll see an orchestrator for the CHR - this would allow quick spin-up and spin-down of virtual routers. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Dave Browning Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 9:40 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding? From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(. Any idea of the costing of the CHR ? A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
My own thoughts. I have followed the mikrotik forums for a while, been looking for the vmxnet stuff for ages. The feedback I gathered, was that they didn't want to do it. Didn't fit into their roadmap. Plus there was some thought it would eat into their other products. But I think everyone is moving to virtualise everything, look at vxlan and all the NSX addons... My best guess is ROS VM is a once of licence for life... CHR is going to be a subscription model, so an ongoing income stream, maybe even come with support (that would be nice). Is the same code base (my understanding), just a different package sort of like Windows home V's Windows Pro v's Windows Enterprise. Personally, I think they should have had the vmware/virtualization stuff earlier. Lets hope they don't price it out of reach.... Currently right now I have a task to build my own router/fw. Ontop of centos 7. Iptables + quagga... We manage so many linux boxes already another FW/rtr build should be that hard ! A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Dave Browning Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 9:40 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding? From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(. Any idea of the costing of the CHR ? A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
I had a crack at getting the CHR into AWS but failed miserably. If you build a MT ontop of CentOS that’d import into AWS quite nicely :-) From: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Tuesday, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:47:54 AM GMT+10 To: MikroTik Australia Public List Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now My own thoughts. I have followed the mikrotik forums for a while, been looking for the vmxnet stuff for ages. The feedback I gathered, was that they didn't want to do it. Didn't fit into their roadmap. Plus there was some thought it would eat into their other products. But I think everyone is moving to virtualise everything, look at vxlan and all the NSX addons... My best guess is ROS VM is a once of licence for life... CHR is going to be a subscription model, so an ongoing income stream, maybe even come with support (that would be nice). Is the same code base (my understanding), just a different package sort of like Windows home V's Windows Pro v's Windows Enterprise. Personally, I think they should have had the vmware/virtualization stuff earlier. Lets hope they don't price it out of reach.... Currently right now I have a task to build my own router/fw. Ontop of centos 7. Iptables + quagga... We manage so many linux boxes already another FW/rtr build should be that hard ! A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Dave Browning Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 9:40 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding? From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(. Any idea of the costing of the CHR ? A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds... The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M. Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it. -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 3:51 PM To: public@talk.mikrotik.com.au Subject: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Importance: Low Hi Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531 but the key think I wanted to point out was *) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this. A _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Current x86 ISO licensing makes it possible to make a copy and run multiple copies using the same license key. I know that lots of people already buy multiple licenses using the same software key, but I also know of some cases where I *suspect* that they are not ;-) I mentioned this to the MT guys who attended the MUM event in Melbourne earlier this year, and suggested that they might consider doing something about it. The response was surprisingly dismissive - as if they don't really care about losing potential revenue by people doing this. I guess they thought that most MikroTik users are honest folk ;) Possibly this new platform is a way to address it - and support for VMX3 offers a reason to use the CHR instead of x86? Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like this, and it will definitely be one to watch! :) Cheers! Mike.
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Can someone explain what CHR is all about? Why not just build a VM from the x86 ISO? Is there a fundamental difference I’m not understanding?
From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 6:15 PM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Hmmm, yes I have slowly come to that understanding as well :(.
Any idea of the costing of the CHR ?
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-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Monday, 24 August 2015 5:09 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Only on their "Cloud Hosted Router" builds...
The licencing is different and for now I believe it's rate limited to 1M/1M.
Other things like btest didn't work when I tested it.
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Hi
Not that new release http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=99531
but the key think I wanted to point out was
*) chr - added x86_64 image for use in virtual environments *) chr - added support for VMware SCSI virtual disks *) chr - added support for VMware vmxnet3 network card *) chr - added support for HyperV SCSI disks *) chr - added support for HyperV Ethernet interfaces *) chr - added support for virtio disks
Awesome ..... vmxnet3 drivers woo hoo, didn't think they would do this.
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Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like this, and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver? The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps. Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it.
If it's anything like under XenServer, you'll be limited to 100mbps (Xenserver shows 100mbps media to the HVM guest unless they're using Citrix's drivers). Using virtio I max out around 900mbps each direction. On 25 August 2015 at 10:55, Purdon, Bob <bobp@purdon.id.au> wrote:
Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like
this,
and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
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-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:12 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
If it's anything like under XenServer, you'll be limited to 100mbps (Xenserver shows 100mbps media to the HVM guest unless they're using Citrix's drivers). Using virtio I max out around 900mbps each direction.
On 25 August 2015 at 10:55, Purdon, Bob <bobp@purdon.id.au> wrote:
Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like
this,
and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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Yes - ditto, Ethernet drivers are 100mbps ;) Cheers! thunder.
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Actually I retract my last comment :-} Interfaces on our zettagrid platform show up as 100mbps, but interfaces on our local vsphere platform, interfaces connect at 1gbps, and btest to a local router give gb speeds :) Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:16 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Yes - ditto,
Ethernet drivers are 100mbps ;)
Cheers!
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If it's anything like under XenServer, you'll be limited to 100mbps (Xenserver shows 100mbps media to the HVM guest unless they're using Citrix's drivers). Using virtio I max out around 900mbps each direction.
On 25 August 2015 at 10:55, Purdon, Bob <bobp@purdon.id.au> wrote:
Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like
this,
and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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I have about 10 Vmware ROS VM's and when I did testing previously I could get up around 1Gb/s But where I have failed recently is VMWare can drop inbound packets if the rx queue gets full and the only way to find this is via esxtop or esxcli ... you need to investigate the actual portgroup. Would me nice if they would allow us to modify the rx buffer size, but .. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:23 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Actually I retract my last comment :-} Interfaces on our zettagrid platform show up as 100mbps, but interfaces on our local vsphere platform, interfaces connect at 1gbps, and btest to a local router give gb speeds :) Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:16 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Yes - ditto,
Ethernet drivers are 100mbps ;)
Cheers!
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If it's anything like under XenServer, you'll be limited to 100mbps (Xenserver shows 100mbps media to the HVM guest unless they're using Citrix's drivers). Using virtio I max out around 900mbps each direction.
On 25 August 2015 at 10:55, Purdon, Bob <bobp@purdon.id.au> wrote:
Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like
this,
and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com. au
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CHR will long term have very high performance. It is their VM offering for the "cloud". They are planning on integrating the Intel DPDK toolkit to provide "Fast-Path" on x86. This will provide wire-speed throughput on supported platforms, e.g. VMWare (VMXNet3) and KVM(VirtIO). This is the same toolkit used by AlcatelLucent in their vSR product and Juniper in the vMX. There is a bunch of interesting info on DPDK in this presentation http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/presentation/dpd... Regards, Andrew On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker < Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
I have about 10 Vmware ROS VM's and when I did testing previously I could get up around 1Gb/s
But where I have failed recently is VMWare can drop inbound packets if the rx queue gets full and the only way to find this is via esxtop or esxcli ... you need to investigate the actual portgroup. Would me nice if they would allow us to modify the rx buffer size, but ..
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:23 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Actually I retract my last comment :-}
Interfaces on our zettagrid platform show up as 100mbps, but interfaces on our local vsphere platform, interfaces connect at 1gbps, and btest to a local router give gb speeds :)
Cheers, Mike.
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Everest Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:16 AM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
Yes - ditto,
Ethernet drivers are 100mbps ;)
Cheers!
-----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:12 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now
If it's anything like under XenServer, you'll be limited to 100mbps (Xenserver shows 100mbps media to the HVM guest unless they're using Citrix's drivers). Using virtio I max out around 900mbps each direction.
On 25 August 2015 at 10:55, Purdon, Bob <bobp@purdon.id.au> wrote:
Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like
this,
and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au
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Actually I retract my last comment :-}
:-)
Interfaces on our zettagrid platform show up as 100mbps, but interfaces on our local vsphere platform, interfaces connect at 1gbps, and btest to a local router give gb speeds :)
Yeah, I just spun up a VM here (ESX) and they're coming up as gigabit. Just have to ponder the failure modes before I decide whether to go this way - if the power goes out and everything shuts itself down, the hardware router I have now comes back when the power does providing me remote access - if it's on the ESX server it won't necessarily do that, which leaves me stranded if I happen to be interstate. Decisions, decisions :-)
]Yeah, I just spun up a VM here (ESX) and they're coming up as gigabit. ]Just have to ponder the failure modes before I decide whether to go this ]way - if the power goes out and everything shuts itself down, the hardware ]router I have now comes back when the power does providing me remote access ]- if it's on the ESX server it won't necessarily do that, which leaves me ]stranded if I happen to be interstate. ] ]Decisions, decisions :-) - That's a VMWare thing - have it auto power on your VMs...
- That's a VMWare thing - have it auto power on your VMs...
Yeah, I know - I don't currently have the host set to power up on mains restore, and nor are the VM's set to auto-start - but both could easily be changed... On the plus side, it would save some power and it would be much quieter than the whiny fans in the RB1100 :-)
Yep I have a cluster and have my ROS VM as highest priority. Also with 5.5 you can set them to high latency sensitivity, pin their memory and reserve some CPU freq. And add them in a first to restart upon vm host restart. A -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2015 6:53 PM To: 'MikroTik Australia Public List' <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now ]Yeah, I just spun up a VM here (ESX) and they're coming up as gigabit. ]Just have to ponder the failure modes before I decide whether to go this ]way - if the power goes out and everything shuts itself down, the hardware ]router I have now comes back when the power does providing me remote access ]- if it's on the ESX server it won't necessarily do that, which leaves me ]stranded if I happen to be interstate. ] ]Decisions, decisions :-) - That's a VMWare thing - have it auto power on your VMs... _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
Yep clustering works well - I do the same in Xenserver - I have three of my four edge router VM's in one of my XS clusters, and one of my two core routers. The fourth edge and second core are in a standalone XS machine which doesn't depend on the SAN (which also houses NFSEN, Observium, and the 2k8 vm which I manage the cluster from). Gives a decent amount of redundancy :) That said, when MT finally sort out making the BGP daemon threaded, I'll buy a bunch of CCR1009's just so it's all hardware based :) On 26 August 2015 at 09:02, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker < Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Yep I have a cluster and have my ROS VM as highest priority. Also with 5.5 you can set them to high latency sensitivity, pin their memory and reserve some CPU freq.
And add them in a first to restart upon vm host restart.
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]Yeah, I just spun up a VM here (ESX) and they're coming up as gigabit. ]Just have to ponder the failure modes before I decide whether to go this ]way - if the power goes out and everything shuts itself down, the hardware ]router I have now comes back when the power does providing me remote access ]- if it's on the ESX server it won't necessarily do that, which leaves me ]stranded if I happen to be interstate. ] ]Decisions, decisions :-)
- That's a VMWare thing - have it auto power on your VMs...
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Very true for the price of those boxes, hard to beat Alex -----Original Message----- From: Public [mailto:public-bounces@talk.mikrotik.com.au] On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2015 9:07 AM To: MikroTik Australia Public List <public@talk.mikrotik.com.au> Subject: Re: [MT-AU Public] vmxnet3 in ROS now Yep clustering works well - I do the same in Xenserver - I have three of my four edge router VM's in one of my XS clusters, and one of my two core routers. The fourth edge and second core are in a standalone XS machine which doesn't depend on the SAN (which also houses NFSEN, Observium, and the 2k8 vm which I manage the cluster from). Gives a decent amount of redundancy :) That said, when MT finally sort out making the BGP daemon threaded, I'll buy a bunch of CCR1009's just so it's all hardware based :) On 26 August 2015 at 09:02, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker < Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com> wrote:
Yep I have a cluster and have my ROS VM as highest priority. Also with 5.5 you can set them to high latency sensitivity, pin their memory and reserve some CPU freq.
And add them in a first to restart upon vm host restart.
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]Yeah, I just spun up a VM here (ESX) and they're coming up as gigabit. ]Just have to ponder the failure modes before I decide whether to go this ]way - if the power goes out and everything shuts itself down, the hardware ]router I have now comes back when the power does providing me remote access ]- if it's on the ESX server it won't necessarily do that, which leaves me ]stranded if I happen to be interstate. ] ]Decisions, decisions :-)
- That's a VMWare thing - have it auto power on your VMs...
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Hi! Performance is as good as running routerOS on the bare metal as far as I can tell ;) We use VM router on our DuxTel Commander (ISP customer management solution) as a firewall appliance between the public facing network and VM infrastructure hosts. The various servers (radius, billing, customer-portal, database, mail, dns, web, ftp, etc) all run as independent VMs connected to a virtual switch network inside the VMWare infrastructure, and the RouterOS connects to that virtual switch and has just a single interface to the world. It works VERY well indeed, and efficiency is excellent both on cloud infrastructure services (rackcentral, zettagrid) as well as our own VSphere platform :) Cheers! Mike. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Why Choose DuxTel for all your MikroTik needs? 10 good reasons: http://duxtel.com/why_duxtel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Follow our tweets for news and updates: http://twitter.com/duxtel
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Whatever the reason, it is certainly a very interesting and cool development - there are a growing number of RouterOS deployments like this, and it will definitely be one to watch! :)
Out of interest, what level of performance should I expect if I were to deploy RouterOS on an ESX server without the vmxnet3 driver?
The use case here is as a home router - I currently use an RB1100, which routes my NBN connection with no issues, and handles routing between 3 VLANs. I often move 600-800 megabits within a VLAN, but traffic routed between VLANs is rarely more than 5-10mbps.
Not sure I want to operate my router as a VM yet - introduces various new failure modes - but am curious what the performance would look like if I were to try it. _______________________________________________ Public mailing list Public@talk.mikrotik.com.au http://talk.mikrotik.com.au/mailman/listinfo/public_talk.mikrotik.com.au
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